Sep 19, 2017, 10:25 am
Last edit by: 24left
Jan 18 2021 TC issues Airworthiness Directive for the 737 MAX
Link to post https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/32976892-post4096.html
Cabin photos
Post 976 https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/29534462-post976.html
Post 1300 https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/29780203-post1300.html
Cabin Layout
Interior Specs can be found here https://www.aircanada.com/ca/en/aco/home/fly/onboard/fleet.html
- Window seats may feel narrower to come as the armrests are placed "into" the "curvature" of the cabin.
- Seats with no windows feel even more narrower as there is no space created by the curvature of window.
- All bulkhead seats have very limited legroom.
- Seats 15A, 16A, 16F, 17A and 17F have limited windows.
- Exit rows 19 and 20 have more legroom than regular preferred seats.
Routes
The 737 MAX is designated to replace the A320-series. Based on announcements and schedule updates, the following specific routes will be operated by the 737 MAX in future:
YYZ-LAX (periodic flights)
YYZ-SNN (new route)
YUL-DUB (new route)
YYZ/YUL-KEF (replacing Rouge A319)
YYT-LHR (replacing Mainline A319)
YHZ-LHR (replacing Mainline B767)
Hawaii Routes YVR/YYC (replacing Rouge B767)
Many domestic trunk routes (YYZ, YVR, YUL, YYC) now operated by 7M8, replacing A320 family
Link to post https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/32976892-post4096.html
Cabin photos
Post 976 https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/29534462-post976.html
Post 1300 https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/29780203-post1300.html
Cabin Layout
Interior Specs can be found here https://www.aircanada.com/ca/en/aco/home/fly/onboard/fleet.html
- Window seats may feel narrower to come as the armrests are placed "into" the "curvature" of the cabin.
- Seats with no windows feel even more narrower as there is no space created by the curvature of window.
- All bulkhead seats have very limited legroom.
- Seats 15A, 16A, 16F, 17A and 17F have limited windows.
- Exit rows 19 and 20 have more legroom than regular preferred seats.
Routes
The 737 MAX is designated to replace the A320-series. Based on announcements and schedule updates, the following specific routes will be operated by the 737 MAX in future:
YYZ-LAX (periodic flights)
YYZ-SNN (new route)
YUL-DUB (new route)
YYZ/YUL-KEF (replacing Rouge A319)
YYT-LHR (replacing Mainline A319)
YHZ-LHR (replacing Mainline B767)
Hawaii Routes YVR/YYC (replacing Rouge B767)
Many domestic trunk routes (YYZ, YVR, YUL, YYC) now operated by 7M8, replacing A320 family
Air Canada Selects Boeing 737 MAX to Renew Mainline Narrowbody Fleet
Jan 21, 2021, 12:09 am
#4111
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: YYC
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I thought you could always standby for an earlier flight in both the Eastern and Western triangles? Not sure that Max would put you ahead of anyone else though.
Jan 21, 2021, 8:12 am
#4112
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: YYZ
Programs: AC SE100K MM
Posts: 588
For the longest time I have avoided the whole 737 class of planes. I do not believe they are safe and I think they are very uncomfortable.
Back in the day, I chose AC over CP for this reason. Today I choose AC over WS.
Since most of flying is to the US, I will increase my business with DL if it means not having a 737. UA is out of the question as they swap planes like crazy and a 737 appears all the time. My Asia/Europe flights now mean a connection in the US. Fine. Status faster.
Friends thought I was crazy. But somehow get it now.
Frankly top status on DL is MUCH better than AC.
Back in the day, I chose AC over CP for this reason. Today I choose AC over WS.
Since most of flying is to the US, I will increase my business with DL if it means not having a 737. UA is out of the question as they swap planes like crazy and a 737 appears all the time. My Asia/Europe flights now mean a connection in the US. Fine. Status faster.
Friends thought I was crazy. But somehow get it now.
Frankly top status on DL is MUCH better than AC.
Jan 21, 2021, 8:17 am
#4113
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: YOW
Programs: AC E75 / Marriott Titanium Elite
Posts: 952
Just speculating if MAX fear would potentially allow one to cheat and get past a standby list to a confirmed seat. Might be worth a try at some point, not that I have any fear of the MAX. That said, going to be a long while before my work allows any flying again.
Jan 21, 2021, 11:20 am
#4114
Join Date: Dec 2002
Posts: 8,005
Scenic ride this morning.
https://www.flightradar24.com/ACA2338/26a154c8
https://www.routesonline.com/news/29...-from-toronto/
Before resuming MAX operations, Strom said that Air Canada’s 737 pilots will perform more than 40 hours of computer-based training each, in addition to six sessions of simulator training totaling 24 hours. Each pilot will also complete between four and six training flights in the actual aircraft without any passengers on board before being cleared to resume revenue service.
https://www.flightradar24.com/ACA2338/26a154c8
https://www.routesonline.com/news/29...-from-toronto/
Before resuming MAX operations, Strom said that Air Canada’s 737 pilots will perform more than 40 hours of computer-based training each, in addition to six sessions of simulator training totaling 24 hours. Each pilot will also complete between four and six training flights in the actual aircraft without any passengers on board before being cleared to resume revenue service.
Jan 24, 2021, 6:48 pm
#4115
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Boeing 737 Max cleared to fly again 'too early'
A former senior manager at Boeing's 737 plant in Seattle has raised new concerns over the safety of the company's 737 Max.
The aircraft, which was grounded after two accidents in which 346 people died, has already been cleared to resume flights in North America and Brazil, and is expected to gain approval in Europe this week.
But in a new report, Ed Pierson claims that further investigation of electrical issues and production quality problems at the 737 factory is badly needed.
A former senior manager at Boeing's 737 plant in Seattle has raised new concerns over the safety of the company's 737 Max.
The aircraft, which was grounded after two accidents in which 346 people died, has already been cleared to resume flights in North America and Brazil, and is expected to gain approval in Europe this week.
But in a new report, Ed Pierson claims that further investigation of electrical issues and production quality problems at the 737 factory is badly needed.
Jan 25, 2021, 9:48 pm
#4116
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Posts: 8,005
Jan 29, 2021, 12:42 pm
#4117
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Ottawa
Programs: Altitude E50K / *G
Posts: 924
Hey y'all - I have flights from YOW - YYZ on Feb 25 and returning on Feb 28th.
I'm somewhat unsure if this is going ahead with the current stay at home order, but assuming that I can still go I was wondering if anybody knows if AC will reroute me YOW - YUL - YYZ to avoid the 737MAX?
My reservation was made on Jan 15th - which is one day after the policy applies.
I know I cannot make the change online as only the direct flights show up - but I was wondering if anybody had tried to do this change over the phone and if they got any pushback from the agent.
Thanks!
I'm somewhat unsure if this is going ahead with the current stay at home order, but assuming that I can still go I was wondering if anybody knows if AC will reroute me YOW - YUL - YYZ to avoid the 737MAX?
My reservation was made on Jan 15th - which is one day after the policy applies.
I know I cannot make the change online as only the direct flights show up - but I was wondering if anybody had tried to do this change over the phone and if they got any pushback from the agent.
Thanks!
Jan 29, 2021, 12:56 pm
#4118
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: YOW
Programs: AC SE, FOTSG Platinum
Posts: 5,731
Hey y'all - I have flights from YOW - YYZ on Feb 25 and returning on Feb 28th.
I'm somewhat unsure if this is going ahead with the current stay at home order, but assuming that I can still go I was wondering if anybody knows if AC will reroute me YOW - YUL - YYZ to avoid the 737MAX?
My reservation was made on Jan 15th - which is one day after the policy applies.
I'm somewhat unsure if this is going ahead with the current stay at home order, but assuming that I can still go I was wondering if anybody knows if AC will reroute me YOW - YUL - YYZ to avoid the 737MAX?
My reservation was made on Jan 15th - which is one day after the policy applies.
Jan 29, 2021, 1:30 pm
#4119
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Ottawa
Programs: Altitude E50K / *G
Posts: 924
Jan 29, 2021, 2:57 pm
#4121
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Feb 2, 2021, 11:35 am
#4124
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Only average or below average pilots were predicted to have issues reacting to MCAS handling characteristics or sensor disagreements. By adding a bit more training, AC fixed the glitch and now 100% of their 737 pilots will be the best anywhere.
It is reassuring that AC will never have an average or below average MAX pilot, even among their own ranks. (That's IS how math works, right?)
Last edited by expert7700; Feb 2, 2021 at 11:42 am
Feb 2, 2021, 11:55 am
#4125
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Since leaving Canada, I don't think I've had any below-average software engineers on my team.
Local/regional economic factors can certainly make it possible that AC might never have an average or below average MAX pilot. For the most basic example, how many hours do you need to fly a 737 at AC? How many at KE? It's an order of magnitude difference.