May 5, 2014, 8:21 pm
Last edit by: Arcanum
Flights operated by Air Canada rouge
NOTE: Rouge Wifi information can be found here
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/air-c...l#post28448087
Dates in brackets indicate planned start of rouge service (either as a new route or replacing mainline service). ML placed before a date indicates the date that service is reverting to mainline.
All Airbus A319/A321 service is in the new Premium Rouge configuration with 2x2J seats. All other routes are Boeing 767-300ER aircraft in a 24J/258Y layout.
Airport codes in blue indicate that these routes are Boeing 767-300ER aircraft for all services.
Airport codes in red indicate that these routes are split between Boeing 767-300ER and Airbus services.
Airport codes in black indicate that these routes are Airbus aircraft for all services.
Routes are organized based on the established rouge bases of YYZ, YUL, YYC, and YVR
*Seasonal Summer Service
YYZ
Canada
YQT YQY YXX YLW YYG (02MAY-OCT) YDF YQB YQM (01MAY19) YFC (01JUL19)
USA
MCO TPA LAS FLL HNL SRQ RSW SAN PHX MIA PSP (14DEC16)
Mexico
CUN PVR SJD
Caribbean
KIN NAS LIR GND MBJ AZS CCC CUR HUX PUJ POP SKB SJO SXM LRM HOG SNU UVF VRA BGI (07JAN) POS (21DEC16)
Europe
ATH BCN EDI VCE MAN LIS PRG BUD GLA LGW
Central and South America
LIM BOG PTY
YUL
USA
LAS MCO FLL PBI TPA MIA
Mexico
CUN MEX PVR (18NOV16)
Caribbean
ZSA CCC HOG PUJ SNU PLS POP PAP NAS (17JAN) PTP
Europe
FCO ATH BCN NCE VCE
Central and South America
SJO (22DEC16)
Africa
CMN
YYC
Canada
YHZ* YHM (2016)
USA
LAS PHX (winter only - PHX AC Express in summer)
YVR
USA
LAS HNL OGG PHX PSP KOA SAN (02JUN)
Mexico
CUN PVR
Asia
KIX
Europe
DUB LGA KEF
What to Do If Your Flight Has Been Rouged According to the AC Rep "Air Canada Altitude": call AC Reservations, cancel and get a refund.
Air Canada rouge, a leisure airline
Feb 20, 2017, 9:59 pm
#7097
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Feb 20, 2017, 10:14 pm
#7098
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I still don't understand your logic. If you are flying up front, everything is the same, except the seat. Rouge seat is basically Dom J seat, well mainline is a pod. Rouge seat is comfortable for day time flight, but sucks for over night flights. I would think if you were going to be sleeping during the flight, you would want a pod.
Feb 20, 2017, 11:17 pm
#7100
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to KOA, there was no direct flight from YVR, so I flew via LAX.
Feb 20, 2017, 11:25 pm
#7101
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: OGG, YYC
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I still don't understand your logic. If you are flying up front, everything is the same, except the seat. Rouge seat is basically Dom J seat, well mainline is a pod. Rouge seat is comfortable for day time flight, but sucks for over night flights. I would think if you were going to be sleeping during the flight, you would want a pod.
I think a rouge J seat (767) is worse than a domestic J mainline seat. It's as if it's been deliberately engineered for discomfort.
Feb 20, 2017, 11:52 pm
#7102
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YVR-OGG/HNL is 6 hours. For me, that's too long to sit in a rouge J seat. After 4 hours, that seat becomes torture. The opposite direction is about 4 hours 30 mins. So after reaching my personal 4 hour limit I only have to endure 30 minutes of torture. So the eastbound flight is survivable. Westbound isn't.
I think a rouge J seat (767) is worse than a domestic J mainline seat. It's as if it's been deliberately engineered for discomfort.
I think a rouge J seat (767) is worse than a domestic J mainline seat. It's as if it's been deliberately engineered for discomfort.
Feb 21, 2017, 12:57 am
#7103
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Location: OGG, YYC
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But the flight from OGG to YVR is 5:30 hours, not 4:30. If they are that uncomfortable for you, how do you sleep on the over night flight? To each their own. I think Rouge up front are comfortable enough that I will not add hours to my flight, as long as they are day flights. My flight to Ireland this summer is booked the same way. AC via London, but returning direct on Rouge.
It's hypothetical because I've only done rouge on this route twice. My destination is either YYC or YYZ so I'm usually on mainline. The problem for me is going to be in the summer when there's no OGG-YYC mainline option. Actually on one of the rouge OGG-YVR redeyes I did somehow manage to sleep without even being medicated!
Like you say, to each their own. I would definitely choose mainline via LHR from Ireland. Wouldn't even consider rouge.
Feb 21, 2017, 1:35 am
#7104
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: Canada
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Feb 21, 2017, 1:37 am
#7105
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Feb 21, 2017, 4:38 am
#7106
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BCN/YYZ
YYZ/BGI/YYZ
PHX/YVR.
I would agree that other than flight PHX/YVR ,these seats are most uncomfortable on long haul. Day or night. BTW, still very dirty as well.
Feb 21, 2017, 8:34 am
#7107
Join Date: Jul 2014
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The once weekly flight was switched a few times in past few years to different departure dates--all prior to the first flight of the season; it has briefly become a Sunday flight (I had to rebook my other arrangements) and then reverted back to Saturday. It has also become a Friday flight and subsequently reverted back to Saturday (that was for 2016/17). Sometimes it just doesn't show up as it is sold out; perhaps that is what happened when you were looking at flights.
Feb 21, 2017, 8:39 am
#7108
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: YUL
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Feb 21, 2017, 12:21 pm
#7109
Join Date: Mar 2012
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Based on this discussion, I've decided to maintain my Rouge virginity. I'll book on a US carrier that offers a front cabin seat that won't torture me on the way home to YVR. What a waste of a 767 - Canada's only widebody aircraft flying to the Hawaiian islands.
Feb 21, 2017, 1:02 pm
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