Air Canada blamed for minister's hefty travel bill
May 2, 2012, 6:24 am
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Air Canada blamed for minister's hefty travel bill
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/newfou...ravel-502.html
What I found interesting when looking at routings YYT-YQX is that they include options like YYT-YUL-YWK-YQX!
Also not clear why he claims a round trip costs around $1,200 (surely some preplanning is possible in many cases).
What I found interesting when looking at routings YYT-YQX is that they include options like YYT-YUL-YWK-YQX!
Also not clear why he claims a round trip costs around $1,200 (surely some preplanning is possible in many cases).
May 2, 2012, 3:38 pm
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May 2, 2012, 8:22 pm
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Next, he'll be allowed to take COdbaUA to EWR and AC to YYT via YYZ from there.
That might be cheaper.
In all seriousness, it's too high.
That might be cheaper.
In all seriousness, it's too high.
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May 2, 2012, 8:36 pm
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http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/newfou...ravel-502.html
What I found interesting when looking at routings YYT-YQX is that they include options like YYT-YUL-YWK-YQX!
Also not clear why he claims a round trip costs around $1,200 (surely some preplanning is possible in many cases).
What I found interesting when looking at routings YYT-YQX is that they include options like YYT-YUL-YWK-YQX!
Also not clear why he claims a round trip costs around $1,200 (surely some preplanning is possible in many cases).
May 3, 2012, 12:49 am
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I have to say though, this man must book at the very last second, and most likely on latitude fares...makes sense that the fares would be steep! No competition, last minute fare, fully flexible ticket....
I think he sould do:
1- Book in advance if possible...could save some big $$$$
2- If he is indeed on Y/B fares, go T+....There aren't that many other flights per day, so if he did indeed need the flexibility to change, the small fee would be far less than a lat fare.
3- Book via. a flight pass!
It's amazing how lazy people can get when it isn't their own money being spent....$1,200 for a round trip, 45 minute beechcraft flight over NL....Reminds me of people I know that USED to be allowed to buy Y/B fares on YEG-YYC flights....about $1,100 for a round trip (it is 250km, 45 mins or so on a dash 8)....Now, T+ at closer to $500.....
May 3, 2012, 4:51 am
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Between this jerkoff and Bev Oda spending insane amounts of tax payers money on 'business' trips, its a wonder how anyone in Canada voted for the PC in the first place.
And will he be taken to task for it...of course not because its all AC's fault that he HAD to spend so much money.
What a joke!
And will he be taken to task for it...of course not because its all AC's fault that he HAD to spend so much money.
What a joke!
May 3, 2012, 7:40 am
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Agreed.
Anywhere within 4 hours driving distance, I have to drive.
NA domestic is always lowest fare (not that going to the US, I can't get UDU)
International I have flown in a mix of Y/J.
Anywhere within 4 hours driving distance, I have to drive.
NA domestic is always lowest fare (not that going to the US, I can't get UDU)
International I have flown in a mix of Y/J.
It would probably save alot of people alot of money if companies/ the Govt' understood and actually used flight passes....
I have to say though, this man must book at the very last second, and most likely on latitude fares...makes sense that the fares would be steep! No competition, last minute fare, fully flexible ticket....
I think he sould do:
1- Book in advance if possible...could save some big $$$$
2- If he is indeed on Y/B fares, go T+....There aren't that many other flights per day, so if he did indeed need the flexibility to change, the small fee would be far less than a lat fare.
3- Book via. a flight pass!
It's amazing how lazy people can get when it isn't their own money being spent....$1,200 for a round trip, 45 minute beechcraft flight over NL....Reminds me of people I know that USED to be allowed to buy Y/B fares on YEG-YYC flights....about $1,100 for a round trip (it is 250km, 45 mins or so on a dash 8)....Now, T+ at closer to $500.....
I have to say though, this man must book at the very last second, and most likely on latitude fares...makes sense that the fares would be steep! No competition, last minute fare, fully flexible ticket....
I think he sould do:
1- Book in advance if possible...could save some big $$$$
2- If he is indeed on Y/B fares, go T+....There aren't that many other flights per day, so if he did indeed need the flexibility to change, the small fee would be far less than a lat fare.
3- Book via. a flight pass!
It's amazing how lazy people can get when it isn't their own money being spent....$1,200 for a round trip, 45 minute beechcraft flight over NL....Reminds me of people I know that USED to be allowed to buy Y/B fares on YEG-YYC flights....about $1,100 for a round trip (it is 250km, 45 mins or so on a dash 8)....Now, T+ at closer to $500.....
May 3, 2012, 9:40 am
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Flipped through Hon O'Brien's latest expense report here:
http://www.exec.gov.nl.ca/exec/cabin...pdf/OBrien.pdf
Basic conclusion (comming from a guy who audit's executive expense reports as part of the Internal Audit jobs) is the assertion of 100k ministerial expenses blamed on AC is "Bozo Eruption". Expenses are overall inline with his duties (Minister for Municpal Affairs). O'Brien is in every town in NL on a monthly basis, most of the travel involves some automobile use (can't get ot Bay De Verde for a 1 hour meeting solely via airplane). Biggest expenses are getting to/from Labrador for a 1-2 hours meeting and presentation.
To reduce his travel expenses, the following would have to be accomplished:
- All NL municaplities would have to schedule their meetings with province around the ministers travel schedule. For example, the Town of Sunnyside would have to put in a request to meet with Minister and then await the next time his roadshow was passing through. Overall this is unlikely to happen and if it was attempted, the municipalities would rant to the local media.
- Alternately the minister outright meets with Municipalities on much less frequent basis (e.g. 1-2 times per year rather than 1 per month). Meetings with town in Labrador would have to cease.
- Municipalities start to pick up the tab for meetings with Provincial gov't (e.g. they travel to YYT rather than Minister come to them.
- Cease and desist the concept of putting interprovincial meetings in far away places (for economic development reasons). Meetings should be held in provincial capitals that are easy places to travel. So rather than putting an Atlantic Ministers meeting in Port Hawksbury,NS or Cornerbrook, NL; it should be in Halifax with the next meeting in St John's, and the following in Charlottetown.
http://www.exec.gov.nl.ca/exec/cabin...pdf/OBrien.pdf
Basic conclusion (comming from a guy who audit's executive expense reports as part of the Internal Audit jobs) is the assertion of 100k ministerial expenses blamed on AC is "Bozo Eruption". Expenses are overall inline with his duties (Minister for Municpal Affairs). O'Brien is in every town in NL on a monthly basis, most of the travel involves some automobile use (can't get ot Bay De Verde for a 1 hour meeting solely via airplane). Biggest expenses are getting to/from Labrador for a 1-2 hours meeting and presentation.
To reduce his travel expenses, the following would have to be accomplished:
- All NL municaplities would have to schedule their meetings with province around the ministers travel schedule. For example, the Town of Sunnyside would have to put in a request to meet with Minister and then await the next time his roadshow was passing through. Overall this is unlikely to happen and if it was attempted, the municipalities would rant to the local media.
- Alternately the minister outright meets with Municipalities on much less frequent basis (e.g. 1-2 times per year rather than 1 per month). Meetings with town in Labrador would have to cease.
- Municipalities start to pick up the tab for meetings with Provincial gov't (e.g. they travel to YYT rather than Minister come to them.
- Cease and desist the concept of putting interprovincial meetings in far away places (for economic development reasons). Meetings should be held in provincial capitals that are easy places to travel. So rather than putting an Atlantic Ministers meeting in Port Hawksbury,NS or Cornerbrook, NL; it should be in Halifax with the next meeting in St John's, and the following in Charlottetown.