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Old May 30, 2013, 9:55 pm
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FAQ: List of valid and booked mini-RTW itineraries version 2.0 (post-"enhancement&quot

INTRO

This wiki is taken from the excellent overview in the first post of this thread by FrequentFlyer9000 and is meant as a guide to the Aeroplan "Mini-RTW" for the uninformed newbie flyer. This is a no judgment zone and newbies are welcome. In this thread, the usage of scary acronyms and complicated FlyerTalk insider-speak will be minimized.

Also, this wiki is a work in progress so please provide feedback or make wiki edits if you think something warrants it.

INFO & COMMON QUESTIONS

What is the "Mini-RTW"?

The Mini-RTW is a name given to a type of reward booking using Air Canada's Aeroplan miles. It is actually not a "round-the-world" ticket at all - it is a regular award redemption. Just as you would use 75K frequent flyer miles to go to Japan on another airline, you can use 75K to do so using Aeroplan miles. The difference is that Aeroplan allows you to "stopover" in multiple cities at no extra mileage cost, making it very attractive compared to other reward travel. It should be noted that this isn't really that much better than some other airlines. For example, Delta offers one stopover + open jaw, which is only one stopover worse than Aeroplan's deal. But many of the airlines only offer one stopover and no open jaw. So there is definitely value here.

In addition to your final destination (in which you can stay for days/weeks/months), you are allowed:

•Two stopovers in other cities (stay for days/weeks/months). You are allowed to trade one of these stopovers for an open jaw (where you land in one city, but take the next flight out of another city)
•10 segments (layovers during which you spend less than 24 hours in a given city) <-- this limit may be gone as of 2014/2015

So, disregarding the additional 10 segments, an award trip for Japan could actually look like this:

NYC > Tokyo (destination - one week) > Paris (stopover - one week) > London (stopover - one week) > NYC

You basically get three times the world exploration for the price of one. If you add on the extra layovers allowed, you can turn it into:

NYC > Los Angeles (one day) > Hawaii (one day) > Tokyo (one week) > Seoul (one day) > Hong Kong (one day) > Paris (one week) > Munich (one day) > London (one week) > Washington DC (one day) > NYC

Of course, you don't have to do the above. Spending so much time in airports can be exhausting. But the option is there for you if you want it.


How many miles is this going to cost me?

See the Award Travel chart here.

From North America to "Asia 1" countries: (effective Jan 1, 2014)
•75K in Economy
•150K in Business
•210K in First

From North America to "Europe 1" countries:
•60K in Economy
•90K in Business
•125K in First

...and so on. Check the link for other combinations. Assuming you are stopping in three cities, the city in the most "expensive" redemption zone is the zone you will have to pay for. So if you are visiting two Asia1 zone cities and one Middle East city, you will pay 80K miles rather than 75K miles since that is what the Middle East trip costs (numbers assume Economy class travel).

Which miles do I need to use? Can I use miles from other Star Alliance airlines?

You need to use Aeroplan miles. You cannot use miles from other Star Alliance members, such as United, to book this mini-RTW. However, you can book flights for the mini-RTW on any airline that is in the alliance and has the desired award seating available. You technically do not have to fly any segments on Air Canada at all.

So, what's the catch? What are the restrictions?

There is no catch. However, there are some restrictions on your itinerary. This is where things get a bit more complicated.

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1) Your itinerary must be within 5% of the total "Maximum Permitted Mileage" (MPM) for the route from the origin to the destination. Even though you are stopping in three cities by using your two stopovers and a final destination, you can define the destination as the stop city furthest away from the origin. Although certain flyers have gotten away with telling an inattentive phone rep that their final destination / "turnaround city" is one of their layover cities to increase their MPM, this does not always work. Sticking with one of your three stop cities is a safe bet.

MPM exist so that you cannot repeatedly fly around the world 10 times on your 10 segments. There is a limit to how many miles you can fly on the reward ticket. MPM guidelines can be found by using the KVS tool or by using Expert Flyer. MPM is calculated between your origin and your destination, one-way. The trips to and from your destination are calculated separately. You are allowed to overshoot this number by 5% ("MPM5"). If you can find a bookable itinerary online that has a mileage longer than the published MPM, this is a "published routing" and can be used even if it exceeds the MPM5. In KVS, navigate to the "Reference" tab, select "MPM" from the dropdown menu, and enter your city pair. MPM information is available under the Travel Information section of ExpertFlyer. It is available to all subscribers, Basic or Premium, and there is a 5-day free trial to ExpertFlyer.com that can be used.

To see if your itinerary fits your MPM limit, you can use the site here to see your total miles traveled: www.gcmap.com. Enter your airport codes separated by dashes to see the itinerary and get the total mileage (e.g. NYC - LHR - NYC). Example here.

TO READ MORE ABOUT MPM: Read this (short) document
2) If you do elect to use an open jaw instead of one of your stopovers, you must schedule the open jaw so that it is in the same "IATA zone" as either the origin or the destination city. So if you are going from NY to Japan to Europe and back to NY, the open jaw cannot be scheduled in Europe, since it is neither the origin zone or the destination zone. The open jaw also cannot be a larger distance than any two legs you are actually flying. In case you are wondering, IATA zones are as follows:

IATA 1 - The Americas (incl. Caribbean, Hawaii)
IATA 2 - Europe as far as the Ural Mountain range, Middle East & Africa
IATA 3 - Oceania, SE Asia, Far East, Sub-Continent.

Remember that if you use your open jaw at the turnaround/destination point, you will only have one stopover to use left. So you would be able to do NYC > Singapore (destination, open jaw) // Tokyo (stop) > NYC. This has one destination, one open jaw (at turnaround point), and one stopover. However, you would not be able to do this: NYC > Madrid (stop) > Singapore (destination, open jaw) // Tokyo (stop) > NYC. Because your 2 stops + 1 open jaw would be more than the two allowed.

3) You cannot land in the same city twice in any one direction. This means that on my way from NY to, let's say, Cairo, I cannot do New York > London > Paris > London > Cairo on the way there, since I would be stopping in London twice in one direction. However, I can stop in London on the way to Cairo and then again on the way back from Cairo.

4) The actual trip needs to be "bookable". It needs to follow certain rules. I won't get into too many details, but anything completely nonsensical in terms of routing is generally not going to fly. But most routes will not fall into this category. Just something to keep in mind.


Do I have to go in the same direction for every leg of the flight?

No. As an example, you can cross the Atlantic twice or cross both the Atlantic and the Pacific once (more like a real RTW trip).


How do I book this?

Assuming you have already planned out your entire itinerary to the dot and have made sure your trip is in accordance with the above restrictions, call Aeroplan and speak with a representative. Alternatively, you can try to book online for free. However, this is not always possible with more complicated routings.


What will this cost me in real cash? How can I minimize fees?
It depends on the region you travel to and which airline you fly on. In general, the more Air Canada segments you fly the more fees/taxes you will pay. Aeroplan does not collect surcharges on non-Air Canada-operated flights. So flying Air Canada internationally will cost you extra. If you use a lot of Air Canada flights in your mini-RTW, your fees could be anywhere from $150 to $400, even sometimes creeping up above $600. Lesson is to avoid AC "metal" (airplanes) if possible.

Every trip will have a $30 cost per person for booking on the phone, regardless of the itinerary.


What are the change fees if I want to change a leg or multiple legs of the trip later?

$90 for changes after original booking. If there is an involuntary change because of flight schedules changing, there is no fee charged. Note that when you make a change, the taxes/fees associated with fuel, etc. may change. They may decrease or increase depending on the previous flight and the new flight. This is independent of the $90 rebooking fee. The $90 is flat regardless of how many of the segments you change. It is not $90 per changed segment.


How do I plan this trip out? Even finding a simple award ticket can be difficult online, let alone one with 10 segments!

Good question. It is recommended that you use either the All-Nippon Airways (ANA) website (guide on how here), the KVS tool (costs money) or ExpertFlyer (costs money), or http://FliSea.com. I personally like to use KVS, but it is not newbie-friendly. It is $20 for 2 months for the "diamond" level service, and $75 for a year. Small price to pay for saving a lot of time, if you can handle the learning curve. ANA is a good free method of finding segments and many people have had plenty of success with it; FliSea is a metasearch tool that uses all of the sites above.

The trick is to do this one segment at a time. So first find NYC > LONDON for the date you want and make sure that the award class you are looking for is available (e.g. Economy low fare). Then do the next leg: LONDON > ROME. Repeat for every segment. Write down the details of each flight, calculate the mileage using the www.gcmap.com resource, and call up Aeroplan to book.

One of our Flyertalk members has built a database with all the Mini-RTW routes that have been flown in the various threads in one simple place: http://www.turnleftat.com/mini-rtw-list/
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Old Jul 31, 2011, 7:24 pm
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# One stopover is permitted in addition to the point of turnaround for inter-continental travel only for online bookings.
# One stopover is also permitted between Canada and the Continental USA and the Caribbean, Central America, Hawaii or Mexico
# Two stopovers are permitted in addition to the point of turnaround for inter-continental travel only for bookings made through the Aeroplan Contact Centre
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Old Aug 6, 2011, 5:29 pm
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Can you travel to South Africa on a mini-rtw ?

Hi All,

We are planning a trip to South Africa (Cape Town) and thought to combine in a mini-rtw trip.

Is it possible to stopover in Johannesburg/ Cape Town - on a mini-rtw itinerary?

Any itinerary suggestions (departing MIA, FLL, or PBI) ?

Many Thanks,

Jerry
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Old Aug 6, 2011, 5:57 pm
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Originally Posted by jerrys
Hi All,

We are planning a trip to South Africa (Cape Town) and thought to combine in a mini-rtw trip.

Is it possible to stopover in Johannesburg/ Cape Town - on a mini-rtw itinerary?

Any itinerary suggestions (departing MIA, FLL, or PBI) ?

Many Thanks,

Jerry
We're going through Johannesburg as part of one. YYZ IAD JHB PER stop AKL stop SYD YVR stop YYZ. I imagine it must be possible to stop there.
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Old Aug 8, 2011, 12:53 pm
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Originally Posted by FrequentFlyer9000
Any connections that you do not explicitly schedule do not count against your miles. So if one of your legs is New York to Oslo, but there is no direct flight and there is a connection in Paris, you only count the miles between New York and Oslo. The fact that you have to take a detour to Paris does not count in the total miles used.
Please correct the above, as per the previous discussion in the DL thread:

Originally Posted by KVS
Originally Posted by FrequentFlyer9000
STOPOVER - more than 24 hour stop.
LAYOVER - less than 24 hour stop, as scheduled explicitly by the traveler. Counts toward MPM.
CONNECTION - less than 24 hour stop (although potentially in rare cases more) as scheduled by the airline between two points. Different from LAYOVER because it does not count in the MPM, at least for many airlines. Not sure about Delta.
Originally Posted by fti
Which airline(s) don't count your "connection" in the MPM? I am not aware of any, though there may be some.
Originally Posted by javabytes
No difference between layovers and stopovers, at least as far as routing is concerned. The only difference is the duration, with layovers being <24h for int'l and stopovers being >= 24h.

I'm also not aware of any airline that doesn't count connections in MPM. Otherwise, what would the point of MPM? In every case I'm aware of, MPM replaces specific routing rules.
Originally Posted by Robert Leach
"Layover" is a term with which I am unfamiliar as it relates to airline rules. There are stopovers and there are connections, but I am personally unfamiliar with the term "layover" -- yet that seems to be a big deal with the OP.
Indeed, there is no such thing as a "layover", and the cumulative TPM of all connections (and stopovers) counts toward the MPM (if the MPM principle is used).

Connections "scheduled by the airline" concept only applies to the Routing principle (in which case the MPM does not apply).


Originally Posted by FrequentFlyer9000
I've read in other posts that AC does not.
It does.
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Old Aug 8, 2011, 12:54 pm
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Originally Posted by FrequentFlyer9000
Is there a good comprehensive thread comparing KVS to EF to AwardNexus?
Please see the comparison charts at http://www.FlyerTalk.com/forum/trave...l#post16826799 (courtesy of Lux).
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Old Aug 8, 2011, 8:17 pm
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I've got a question (which can probably be added to OP):

How does one get the individual airline PNRs for things like OLCI? Can it only be done by calling AP/AC, or is there a site like checkmytrip.com that works for AC PNRs?

O/T: checkmytrip.com works amazing for BA rewards. It listed the airline PNR for every sector of my wife's itinerary to meet me in Asia.
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Old Aug 9, 2011, 10:10 am
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Looking into the possibilities of rtw.. 4 tickets.. Y since it hasn't increased in points at 75K each..

So any suggestions where we can go.. How bout HK, Singapore, Australia, New Zealand, Europe..

How would anyone suggest I best make use of a redemption.. We are also considering Europe next summer..
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Old Aug 9, 2011, 11:34 am
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Originally Posted by rehoult
I've got a question (which can probably be added to OP):

How does one get the individual airline PNRs for things like OLCI? Can it only be done by calling AP/AC, or is there a site like checkmytrip.com that works for AC PNRs?
I simply called every airlines involved for the PNRs.
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nice post OP. Very informative.
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Old Oct 11, 2011, 8:20 pm
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Originally Posted by beep88
I simply called every airlines involved for the PNRs.
I call every airline as well.. often seat selections are chosen by calling the airline whose segment you're flying.. directly, to ensure that your seat selection is properly registered and selected.
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Old Oct 11, 2011, 9:13 pm
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Originally Posted by Ancien Maestro
I call every airline as well.. often seat selections are chosen by calling the airline whose segment you're flying.. directly, to ensure that your seat selection is properly registered and selected.
That's what I use to do. It works perfectly with Swiss, Thai, Air France and all but Lufthansa. LH says it must keep half of its seats in F available for attribution at check-in when the flight is full, which is not an explanation. Which half I asked? They could not tell. I asked if they were especially refusing preselection of award seats, their answer was it had nothing to do with the seat being an award or not. Maybe I'm missing something?
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Old Oct 11, 2011, 10:00 pm
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Originally Posted by LearningToFly
That's what I use to do. It works perfectly with Swiss, Thai, Air France and all but Lufthansa. LH says it must keep half of its seats in F available for attribution at check-in when the flight is full, which is not an explanation. Which half I asked? They could not tell. I asked if they were especially refusing preselection of award seats, their answer was it had nothing to do with the seat being an award or not. Maybe I'm missing something?
I can't imagine F paying customers refused seating.. and preselection seating at that..

Was this an explanation you received once from LH, or multiple times? I've never heard of LH doing that neither..
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Old Oct 12, 2011, 8:01 am
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Originally Posted by Ancien Maestro
I can't imagine F paying customers refused seating.. and preselection seating at that..

Was this an explanation you received once from LH, or multiple times? I've never heard of LH doing that neither..
It happened only once, this month. I travel on an award though. I have ten segments, but only LH refused the preselection of seats.
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Old Oct 12, 2011, 8:50 am
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Originally Posted by LearningToFly
It happened only once, this month. I travel on an award though. I have ten segments, but only LH refused the preselection of seats.
LH had no problem assigning seats x2 on my 3 flights with them during my mini-RTW last spring. I just called the US desk and it was done in seconds. I think the TG phone in LA rang longer than the call with LH took.
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Old Oct 12, 2011, 8:58 am
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Originally Posted by igloocoder
LH had no problem assigning seats x2 on my 3 flights with them during my mini-RTW last spring. I just called the US desk and it was done in seconds. I think the TG phone in LA rang longer than the call with LH took.
What should I understand from their explanation about the full flight and the half seats to be assigned on check in? Maybe the agent did not like my voice, that's all. Or my accent. Anyway, TG and Swiss were as nice as usual.
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