Mini RTW Questions
#6496
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: YVR
Programs: SE 100K
Posts: 935
New airport is huge. And beautiful.
New TK lounge is nice, but not worth spending more than 2-3 hours.
Definitely enough time to go in and see the Blue Mosque, Hagia Sophia, Grand Bazaar for sure. Maybe some other things if you're efficient.
There's tons of of buses from the new IST downtown which take you right down to Sultanahmet (basically right @ the Blue Mosque).
#6498
Join Date: Jan 2017
Posts: 3
Sorry but my question is not about the EVA strike which I hope gets resolved quickly. I'm very new at using points and miles so any advice will be much appreciated. Just used up a lifetimes wort of accumulated Aeroplan to book a mini RTW business class trip for wife and myself from Toronto to India and back in March 2020. Got confirmed bookings all sectors except EVA TPE-ORD on BR 56 on 3rd April 202 is Economy. I am monitoring Aeroplan for Business Class availability on EVA but somehow they have not released any BC seats for that period on any of their flights. Any suggestions on how I can monitor and upgrade this one sector when EVA BC seats are available? Even one seat upgrade will be appreciated since it s 15 hour flight and I have already paid the points for BC all the way.
#6499
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Toronto, ON
Programs: AC 75K
Posts: 6,363
Sorry but my question is not about the EVA strike which I hope gets resolved quickly. I'm very new at using points and miles so any advice will be much appreciated. Just used up a lifetimes wort of accumulated Aeroplan to book a mini RTW business class trip for wife and myself from Toronto to India and back in March 2020. Got confirmed bookings all sectors except EVA TPE-ORD on BR 56 on 3rd April 202 is Economy. I am monitoring Aeroplan for Business Class availability on EVA but somehow they have not released any BC seats for that period on any of their flights. Any suggestions on how I can monitor and upgrade this one sector when EVA BC seats are available? Even one seat upgrade will be appreciated since it s 15 hour flight and I have already paid the points for BC all the way.
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#6500
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: YTZ
Programs: Aeroplan, Asia Miles
Posts: 81
AMM>CAI (22h in CAI)
CAI>IST (12h in IST)
IST>OTP (20h in OTP)
OTP>BUD (LO, 19h in BUD)
BUD>KRK (23h in KRK)
KRK>ZRH (6h in ZRH)
ZRH>EWR (<24h in NYC)
EWR>YYZ
GCMapper shows 6746mi, direct AMM-YYZ is 5846 mi. Any thoughts?
Thanks again!
Last edited by nnanlno; Jun 25, 2019 at 12:43 pm
#6501
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: May 2009
Location: FRA / YEG
Programs: AC Super Elite, Radisson Platinum, Accor Platinum
Posts: 11,874
Thanks you all for the input so far. What about the following sequence? Would it be stretching it too thin?
AMM>CAI (22h in CAI)
CAI>IST (12h in IST)
IST>OTP (20h in OTP)
OTP>BUD (LO, 19h in BUD)
BUD>KRK (23h in KRK)
KRK>ZRH (6h in ZRH)
ZRH>EWR (<24h in NYC)
EWR>YYZ
GCMapper shows 6746mi, direct AMM-YYZ is 5846 mi. Any thoughts?
Thanks again!
AMM>CAI (22h in CAI)
CAI>IST (12h in IST)
IST>OTP (20h in OTP)
OTP>BUD (LO, 19h in BUD)
BUD>KRK (23h in KRK)
KRK>ZRH (6h in ZRH)
ZRH>EWR (<24h in NYC)
EWR>YYZ
GCMapper shows 6746mi, direct AMM-YYZ is 5846 mi. Any thoughts?
Thanks again!
#6502
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: YTZ
Programs: Aeroplan, Asia Miles
Posts: 81
I thought this would be considered relatively not too complex, as it does not even have any stopover or open jaw to count, and it isn't those 14 segments actual mini-RTW that i see on here...
I take it just be very nice and patient with the agent, and if the agent is unable, then just hang up and try again?
#6503
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: May 2009
Location: FRA / YEG
Programs: AC Super Elite, Radisson Platinum, Accor Platinum
Posts: 11,874
Many thanks for the confirmation.
I thought this would be considered relatively not too complex, as it does not even have any stopover or open jaw to count, and it isn't those 14 segments actual mini-RTW that i see on here...
I take it just be very nice and patient with the agent, and if the agent is unable, then just hang up and try again?
I thought this would be considered relatively not too complex, as it does not even have any stopover or open jaw to count, and it isn't those 14 segments actual mini-RTW that i see on here...
I take it just be very nice and patient with the agent, and if the agent is unable, then just hang up and try again?
And it all depends. Some agents will flat out refuse to piece together an itinerary segment by segment, insisting that they can only book whatever option the AE website/system shows when entering the origin and destination. Most agents are more cooperative if you are friendly, but seven (overnight) connections vs. 1-2 connections is still rather "outside the box".
#6504
Join Date: Jan 2013
Programs: Aeroplan, FlyingBlue
Posts: 289
Yes, pretty much. Sounds like you know what you're doing.
And it all depends. Some agents will flat out refuse to piece together an itinerary segment by segment, insisting that they can only book whatever option the AE website/system shows when entering the origin and destination. Most agents are more cooperative if you are friendly, but seven (overnight) connections vs. 1-2 connections is still rather "outside the box".
And it all depends. Some agents will flat out refuse to piece together an itinerary segment by segment, insisting that they can only book whatever option the AE website/system shows when entering the origin and destination. Most agents are more cooperative if you are friendly, but seven (overnight) connections vs. 1-2 connections is still rather "outside the box".
#6505
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Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: SFO
Programs: AC SE MM, BA Gold, SQ Silver, Bonvoy Tit LTG, Hyatt Glob, HH Diamond
Posts: 44,331
I recently had an agent refuse to manually piece together SIN-BKK-HKG-YVR-SFO. It was the only way to get home, in J, that day.
I still had a stopover left, so I said I wanted to go to YVR instead.
And stop for 3 hours.
Then fly to SFO.
I got what I wanted
I still had a stopover left, so I said I wanted to go to YVR instead.
And stop for 3 hours.
Then fly to SFO.
I got what I wanted
#6506
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Canada
Programs: UA*1K MM SK EBG LATAM BL
Posts: 23,305
If that happens, they wont question it.
Aeroplan has some of the best routing rules in the ff world, unlike UA and DL where agents can only book what the computer gives them.
It will be a sad day when Aeroplan can only book what the website spits out.
#6507
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 524
What's the lowest total $ fees people have achieved with a mini rtw (assuming no AC metal)?
#6508
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 524
I found the following individual legs available in economy for next year and only $125pp in fees (combining single leg fees) and 75K miles pp (I think, since Asia 1 is destination). Is there anything that looks off before I call to book? Thanks!
EWR-NRT (UA) stop
NRT-ICN (Ethiopian) destination
ICN-CTS (Asiana) stop
CTS-TPE (EVA) stop
TPE-JFK (EVA) final destination
Both directions are less than 1.6x of direct miles between origin/destination. Anything else I need to think about?
EWR-NRT (UA) stop
NRT-ICN (Ethiopian) destination
ICN-CTS (Asiana) stop
CTS-TPE (EVA) stop
TPE-JFK (EVA) final destination
Both directions are less than 1.6x of direct miles between origin/destination. Anything else I need to think about?
#6509
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: May 2015
Location: BOS, YVR, ZRH
Programs: *G
Posts: 17,399
I found the following individual legs available in economy for next year and only $125pp in fees (combining single leg fees) and 75K miles pp (I think, since Asia 1 is destination). Is there anything that looks off before I call to book? Thanks!
EWR-NRT (UA) stop
NRT-ICN (Ethiopian) destination
ICN-CTS (Asiana) stop
CTS-TPE (EVA) stop
TPE-JFK (EVA) final destination
Both directions are less than 1.6x of direct miles between origin/destination. Anything else I need to think about?
EWR-NRT (UA) stop
NRT-ICN (Ethiopian) destination
ICN-CTS (Asiana) stop
CTS-TPE (EVA) stop
TPE-JFK (EVA) final destination
Both directions are less than 1.6x of direct miles between origin/destination. Anything else I need to think about?
Also, the furthest point from EWR/JFK in your itinerary is TPE, so that will be your destination. So you need to check if your trip both ways is below what's allowed for EWR-TPE, meaning both:
TPE-JFK (obv will be)
and
EWR-NRT-ICN-CTS-TPE
need to be below permitted mileage.
#6510
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Toronto, ON
Programs: AC 75K
Posts: 6,363
I found the following individual legs available in economy for next year and only $125pp in fees (combining single leg fees) and 75K miles pp (I think, since Asia 1 is destination). Is there anything that looks off before I call to book? Thanks!
EWR-NRT (UA) stop
NRT-ICN (Ethiopian) destination
ICN-CTS (Asiana) stop
CTS-TPE (EVA) stop
TPE-JFK (EVA) final destination
Both directions are less than 1.6x of direct miles between origin/destination. Anything else I need to think about?
EWR-NRT (UA) stop
NRT-ICN (Ethiopian) destination
ICN-CTS (Asiana) stop
CTS-TPE (EVA) stop
TPE-JFK (EVA) final destination
Both directions are less than 1.6x of direct miles between origin/destination. Anything else I need to think about?
Not sure the relevance of 1.6x of direct miles. MPM is the only thing that matters.