Mini RTW Questions
Oct 29, 2013, 7:00 pm
#1906
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: In the air
Programs: Occasional RTW club
Posts: 6,924
There needs to be no flights scheduled between your destinations.
For example, if you arrive from BKK at 5:40am, you cannot just simply take the IST-ZRH flight in the afternoon to get the tour - there is an earlier available flight (even though there may not have been award space), you will be denied.
I did the tour connecting between TAS (arrive 7am) and PEK (depart 10pm), but only because there was
a) no later flight scheduled from origin
b) no earlier flight departing for destination
I used their free hotel once too, but I have a passport that only costs USD20 for visa.
For example, if you arrive from BKK at 5:40am, you cannot just simply take the IST-ZRH flight in the afternoon to get the tour - there is an earlier available flight (even though there may not have been award space), you will be denied.
I did the tour connecting between TAS (arrive 7am) and PEK (depart 10pm), but only because there was
a) no later flight scheduled from origin
b) no earlier flight departing for destination
I used their free hotel once too, but I have a passport that only costs USD20 for visa.
Oct 29, 2013, 7:17 pm
#1907
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: West
Posts: 3,357
Thank you rankourabu and jerryhung for your comments.
Oct 29, 2013, 8:42 pm
#1908
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: In the air
Programs: Occasional RTW club
Posts: 6,924
Ugh. I hate inconsistent agents. Trying to book YUL-xxx-DEL, DEL-xxx-Japan, Japan-xxx-Europe, Europe-YUL and being told that DEL is the POT, and not Japan, because it costs the most points. ARGJHdg;lkdfl
Oct 29, 2013, 8:50 pm
#1909
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Calgary
Programs: A Few
Posts: 2,339
If you are trying place a stop in DEL and Japan (eg. NRT), then DEL is your POT as it's the furthest from YUL.
Oct 29, 2013, 8:55 pm
#1910
Join Date: Jan 2006
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Oct 29, 2013, 9:02 pm
#1911
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Calgary
Programs: A Few
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Great Circle Mapper is your friend. This is the way AE determines the furthest point from origin.
YUL-DEL - 7017 miles
YUL-NRT - 6449 miles
Your routing via DEL to NRT would be allowed as long you don't stop in DEL and it's under MPM to Japan via the Atlantic.
I've run into this before when trying to go to NRT from YYC via the Atlantic and trying to place a stop in BKK on the return also via the Atlantic.
Oct 29, 2013, 9:20 pm
#1912
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: In the air
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Posts: 6,924
Ugh. You're right. DXB is just barely under OKJ (8,200 vs 8,500), which is why it worked last year, but DEL comes up a lot further since it's 9,200-some. Hrm. I think I need to find an agent clueless enough to let this through yet self-confident enough to still take the spoonfed flights and think they are doing this right.
[edit] any suggestions on what city is closest to DEL such that there's a LCC operating into it for cheap and yet so that the MPM falls slightly under Japan? What I *really* need is TRV, actually.
[edit] any suggestions on what city is closest to DEL such that there's a LCC operating into it for cheap and yet so that the MPM falls slightly under Japan? What I *really* need is TRV, actually.
Oct 30, 2013, 8:36 am
#1913
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Calgary
Programs: A Few
Posts: 2,339
For example...
YUL-DEL - 7017 miles
YUL-PVG - 7069 miles
PVG is furthest from YUL, so you could stop in DEL on your way to PVG via the Atlantic and also return that way with a stop in Europe as long as your route is under the MPM for TATL YUL-PVG.
Oct 30, 2013, 8:46 am
#1914
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: In the air
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Oooh. Interesting idea on PVG! Thanks. I'll explore this. Also checking SIN, but despite lots of flights from Europe, can't get over the pond around Xmas
Oct 30, 2013, 8:52 am
#1915
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: YYZ
Posts: 1,666
EDIT: Never mind
Last edited by tng11; Oct 30, 2013 at 12:17 pm
Oct 30, 2013, 1:54 pm
#1916
Join Date: Dec 2010
Programs: AC E, BA Bronze, HHonors Gold
Posts: 208
MPM5: 12558
YUL-ORD-ICN-SYD is valid.
If you can find seats through JFK, that would be even better as it has OZ's newest QS lie-flat seats. The current ones to ORD are angle-flat.
(Funnily enough, SYD-ICN-ORD/JFK-YYZ isn't valid.)
I can't find a trans-atlantic MPM for YUL-SYD, but there's one for YYZ-SYD which is 20000. That means you can go through SIN/BKK, then another European city back to Canada. You could do something like SYD-SIN-IST-YYZ and it would be perfectly valid. I even managed to do YYZ-YUL-MUC-DME-FRA-BKK-SYD. Would highly recommend, as you can return scamcharge free by doing something like:
SYD-SIN-IST-IAD-YUL on SQ/SQ/TK.
YUL-ORD-ICN-SYD is valid.
If you can find seats through JFK, that would be even better as it has OZ's newest QS lie-flat seats. The current ones to ORD are angle-flat.
(Funnily enough, SYD-ICN-ORD/JFK-YYZ isn't valid.)
I can't find a trans-atlantic MPM for YUL-SYD, but there's one for YYZ-SYD which is 20000. That means you can go through SIN/BKK, then another European city back to Canada. You could do something like SYD-SIN-IST-YYZ and it would be perfectly valid. I even managed to do YYZ-YUL-MUC-DME-FRA-BKK-SYD. Would highly recommend, as you can return scamcharge free by doing something like:
SYD-SIN-IST-IAD-YUL on SQ/SQ/TK.
YUL-YYZ
YYZ-TPE (stop)
TPE-SIN
SIN-PER (stop)
SYD-YUL (any route back home is good)
Is that valid? If not, what would be a good way to visit TPE and any big city in Australia (MEL, PER, BNE, SYD) before heading back to YUL?
Oct 30, 2013, 2:17 pm
#1917
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: YYZ
Posts: 1,666
Your SYD-YUL would be fine with what was suggested earlier in reverse. I'm not sure if you could do it via the Atlantic since I can't see a MPM value for AT, so your options are pretty limited without a published routing.
Oct 30, 2013, 3:51 pm
#1918
Join Date: Sep 2013
Posts: 130
My mini-rtw J trip is booked. Seat numbers are on my itinerary. Am I able to request for specific seats now? Would it be through Aeroplan or the respective airline?
Oct 30, 2013, 3:52 pm
#1919
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: In the air
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