Originally Posted by
synzero
You need to be at least a Silver Medallion to buy a SkyClub membership, and for me that requires a combination of my short-haul business flights and some spend. Given the way they've structured these cards, only the Reserve card gives decent return towards MQDs, so if I stayed with Delta I'd have no choice but to keep my Reserve card if I wanted to get to Silver, despite 12 flights a year on Delta. The math doesn't math: $695 for a SkyClub membership PLUS $550 for the Reserve card, offset by just one hard to use companion pass?
Compare with American: $595 for an Executive card that gives a 10,000 Loyalty Point bonus after you hit 50,000, which effectively reduces the threshold for Platinum to 65,000 points/year, plus priority check-in and boarding, plus maybe $200-$300 in credits, vs $1245 for a unlimited SkyClub membership plus a slight bump in priority for upgrades except that MMs now beat that out and a hard to use Companion Pass?
Plus: Admiral's Clubs have recently upped their game on food, and you get unlimited visits + 2 guests for free. Given my flight and spend patterns, with all the ways you can earn Loyalty Points I have a reasonably easy shot at attaining Platinum status, which gives me access to business class lounges internationally. On Delta even with a Reserve card and 12 trips a year, I can just barely make Silver Medallion which is good for pretty much nothing more than upgrades on some short-haul flights. AA has a partnership with Hyatt which is my go-to hotel and AA miles are infinitely more valuable for international travel. I've already done the instant status match to Platinum Pro so I'm a Platinum Pro AA flyer for the next four months and targeting retaining Platinum status.
It's a no brainer for me. Despite the much less good route coverage of AA vs Delta, I'm headed to AA. Delta just doesn't make sense for me. I don't think this move is going to be a net positive for Delta, despite the various analyses above in this thread.
Just to clarify: the new (Summer 2023 updated) AA Citi Executive World MasterCard arrangement is better than giving cardholders 10k LPs.
Previously you got a bonus of 10k Loyalty Points (LP's) when spending $40k
of charges on the card.
Now, as of summer 2023, you get 2 bonuses of 10k LPs each for
a total of 20k LPs just for having the card, and you
don't have to charge ANYTHING to the card.
• 1st 10k LPs are awarded once your annual LP earnings total gets to 50k LPs.
• 2nd 10k LPs are awarded once your annual LP earnings total gets to 90k LPs
(Annual LP earnings total resets to 0 every March 1, NOT December 31. Membership year expires every March 31.)
These bonus LP's of 2 x 10k LPs work the same as the
20% LP boost for 6 months and the 30% LP boost for 6 months that kick in at 60k LPs and 100k LPs that apply to hotel/car/shopping portal transactions.
AA doesn't care how you earn the LPs, and neither does Citi. They know when you've gotten to the milestone loyalty point totals of 50k and 90k, and you automatically get your 10k - 10k LP bonuses. How you get to those 50k/90k totals doesnt matter: flying, AAhotels, online shopping, car rentals, AA vacations, or charges to EITHER citi or Barclays credit cards, or any combination of them.
You pay your Citi annual fee and for all they care you can leave the card in the drawer; you don't even need it for accessing the club since it's linked to your AA account. You just show your boarding pass to get in the club.
The
whole Loyalty Point thing is pretty cool, actually, in my opinion. It's fairly easy to achieve SOMETHING for status. It's very flexible and doles out perks along the way.
Not nearly as complicated as it seems from typing this out.
Plus the lounges for AA aren't ANYTHING as crowded as DL lounges and are unlimited access. For good reason. But AA is upping their game and making improvements. Can't imagine AA shutting down access in the future the way DL did. Like someone else said, this is up there with Tropicana and New Coke mistakes LOL
Here's the
AA club upgrade/changes thread here on FT
and the
news release from AA about the upgrades to the clubs and changes to the citi card benefits/fees that gives a full AAdmirals Club membership in case anyone wants to read pros and cons of their club.
FYI The
AA thread about launching the LP program in Fall 2021 for status ended up being 4161 posts...Wiki up top there has a lot of helpful info