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Old Aug 28, 2010 | 10:32 am
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Originally Posted by ExpertFlyer Voice
If you insist...
We generally do not comment on competitors' products/services, as we find such tactics to be in a rather bad taste.

From http://en.Wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_PR:
"In other words, instead of concentrating efforts in the maintenance and the creation of a positive reputation/ image of your clients, you are trying to discredit someone' else (usually your business rivals)."
Nevertheless, we understand that some companies may feel that the only way they can make their product appear better is by launching propaganda campaigns against the competitor's products, and will address the present one below:

Originally Posted by ExpertFlyer Voice
As sbm12 said "KVS is generally screen-scraping
As was mentioned on numerous occasions previously, the KVS Tool does not do "screen-scraping", and never did.

P.S. Would you care to share which one of your "direct" GDS connections the U* award/upgrade data originally came from?

Originally Posted by ExpertFlyer Voice
Not Exclusive. Not only does ExpertFlyer have a POS option in the Fare Information search, but we have access to 3 different GDSs for Flight Availability, with different POSs. Also, EF allows you to put in any POS in the Fare Information search.
Could you please demonstrate how would an EF user select a different GDS or POS option when doing an Availability query (where it actually matters)?

Originally Posted by ExpertFlyer Voice
Starting up an application or starting up a web browser...
We are not aware of any graphical web browser in the world, which can be launched as fast as the native KVS Tool application, not to mention the time it takes to log-in:
Originally Posted by bdesmond
I pay for both ... KVS is great when I'm at a PC that it will work on - its far faster than any web interface is going to be.
Originally Posted by alliance
I've used both in the past but now exclusively use KVS because it is faster and easier to quickly do multiple queries.
Originally Posted by SQtalk.com/forum/showpost.php?p=123968&postcount=14
I use KVS because it's quick and easy compared to logging into EF etc.
Originally Posted by ExpertFlyer Voice
However, and more importantly, we don't require users to sign up for long term subscriptions, you can use EF only for the months you need, and not have to pay when you don't need it.
That would have been a convincing argument, if the KVS Tool members were not good at math :

Originally Posted by mikeyyz
I like KVS (www.kvstool.com) because it's quite quick - faster than using the EF website, and half the price ($5/month instead of $10)
Not to mention that many KVS Tool members could not live without it for a day, let alone for a month .


Originally Posted by ExpertFlyer Voice
Virtuallythere.com, ViewTrip.com, CheckMyTrip.com etc. These are sites that pull PNR's right from the GDS's, run for free by the GDSs.
Actually, the PNR Manager supports both GDS PNRs as well as 18+ airline directly.

Originally Posted by gleff
I do find it MUCH more convenient to have it all on a single screen (and storing PNR information rather than logging into the various websites). Great time saver.
Originally Posted by ExpertFlyer Voice
Not for long...
As the saying goes, imitation is the sincerest form of flattery .

Originally Posted by ExpertFlyer Voice
So by using ExpertFlyer you can see either award/upgrade inventory or regular inventory farther ahead then usual for airlines such as:
AC, AF, AY, AZ, BA, CX, EI, IB, LY, QF, SQ
Except that you cannot see any award or upgrade inventory for BA or CX or SQ (and many more, as listed above) on EF, while the KVS Tool members continue to enjoy their awards on these premium carriers, which they found via the KVS Tool.
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