Family pooling and eligible sectors
Dec 8, 2014, 8:19 am
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Family pooling and eligible sectors
I have family pooling of miles and status credits set up. We are about to return home for xmas/NY on EY, a total of 4 sectors each and a result of 400 SC each.
With the family pooling there will be sufficient SC for me to return to Plat, but do I get the family sectors?
Do family flights count as eligible sectors?
Do EY flights count as eligible sectors?
With the family pooling there will be sufficient SC for me to return to Plat, but do I get the family sectors?
Do family flights count as eligible sectors?
Do EY flights count as eligible sectors?
Dec 8, 2014, 2:19 pm
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No - it's BIS earn only.
You can pool all the SC's and velocity points you want, but until a member travels on the requisite number of sectors they won't be getting status that way.
You can pool all the SC's and velocity points you want, but until a member travels on the requisite number of sectors they won't be getting status that way.
Dec 29, 2014, 7:06 pm
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I had a return trip with the family (4 in total) in mid-November and have still not seen a single point credited...
Dec 30, 2014, 3:56 am
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They normally post entries to both the donor and recipient accounts at the same time. The post generally occurs within a day of the flight.
Most recent for me was Saturday.
Donor account:
Recipient Account:
Most recent for me was Saturday.
Donor account:
Code:
28 Dec 14 27 Dec 14 Brisbane-Melbourne 2004 Points and 15 Status 0 0 0 0
Credits Pooled to Velocity Member 2xxxxxxxxx VA0123
Code:
28 Dec 14 27 Dec 14 Pooled from Velocity Member 2zzzzzzzzz VA0123 15 1,145 859 2,004
Feb 5, 2015, 10:02 pm
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I'm climbing back up the ladder with VA this year thanks to a couple of trips flown by my partner. I've exceeded the number of SC to earn silver and she has already flown the 2 VA-coded flights but that eligibility shows as met only on her account, whereas mine still says 0 despite both flights pooling into my account. It's a bit weird seeing 270SC and it's still on the red level! The T&C are grey on this matter.
Also, it's a bit shame that the AMEX flights do not earn SC, mileage I'd understand but why not SC?!
Also, it's a bit shame that the AMEX flights do not earn SC, mileage I'd understand but why not SC?!
Feb 7, 2015, 11:56 pm
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Also, it's a bit shame that the AMEX flights do not earn SC, mileage I'd understand but why not SC?!
Feb 8, 2015, 1:31 am
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That's exactly how it works. If you want the status, you have to (personally) fly the required number of flights that earn eligible sectors.
They're basically award flights. What you *can* do (though the value in doing so is questionable) is book the AmEx flights, cancel them (and pay the cxl fee) then use the remaining credit to re-book. The flights in the subsequent booking will be revenue tickets, so will earn points and SCs.
They're basically award flights. What you *can* do (though the value in doing so is questionable) is book the AmEx flights, cancel them (and pay the cxl fee) then use the remaining credit to re-book. The flights in the subsequent booking will be revenue tickets, so will earn points and SCs.
I might just do what you suggested to earn those additional SC. I'm thinking of using the AMEX on transcons then cancelling and booking the short hauls (where it's more valuable for me). Can the credit be used on multiple flights?
Feb 8, 2015, 3:44 pm
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No idea, sorry. The credit you get is an AmEx credit, so the subsequent flight has to be booked via AmEx. I would assume that if you didn't manage to use the entire credit with one flight, you would be able to use the remaining value on another flight.
Feb 8, 2015, 3:47 pm
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Thanks. I cross posted this over at AFF where some have said the new flight must equal or greater to the credit given. Will see how it will pan out, got a reserve and the VA plat AMEX cards each having different T&C. Oddly enough the VA plat still quotes 50 dollar VA change fee from 2011, and claims no cancellations, just changes and must be kept to the same route.
Feb 8, 2015, 5:38 pm
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Reserve huh? ... With the "Free Flight" I have noted the fare paid showing on the (Virtually there) E-ticket for these is $0 and domestic points earn is based on fare paid ... not so for international flights.
Feb 9, 2015, 10:41 pm
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By AMEX flights, do you mean the free annual flight you get with AMEX Velocity Platinum, or the 2-for-1 business class flights I've heard you can book through AMEX? Would be a shame if the latter, was thinking of doing that soon. Thanks.
Feb 11, 2015, 12:07 am
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Feb 11, 2015, 3:10 am
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It's actually extremely good value. A typical return J fare is 10k whereas the cheapest saver I is 8k, so works out a 6k saving. Also applicable one ways fares and results in about 40% saving. I might be trying it out later this year. One could easily hit gold on a simple return trip to the ME, plat if pooling.
Fare pricing for the Complimentary Business Class Companion
Fare offer is based on J class of The Business Flexi fare family and
availability of the offer is subject to seat availability in C class
of The Business Flexi fare family
Fare offer is based on J class of The Business Flexi fare family and
availability of the offer is subject to seat availability in C class
of The Business Flexi fare family
Last edited by edy4eva; Feb 11, 2015 at 3:17 am
Feb 11, 2015, 10:29 pm
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It's actually extremely good value. A typical return J fare is 10k whereas the cheapest saver I is 8k, so works out a 6k saving. Also applicable one ways fares and results in about 40% saving. I might be trying it out later this year. One could easily hit gold on a simple return trip to the ME, plat if pooling.
When I looked in to in once it didn't seem such great value - though I think there was a wider spread in the price difference between J and I fares at the time as well.