View Poll Results: Is an American Airlines/US Airways merger good for the traveling public?
Yes
84
28.19%
No
214
71.81%
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Last edit by: aztimm
Note:
There is an existing thread in the AA forum that may be useful to US and AA Flyertalkers:
US-AA Merger: Just the Facts thread
As facts become posted, that should be the place to look.
Merger discussion, speculation, and other questions can be directed here, or the similar thread in the AA forum:
MERGER: US and AA 9 Dec 2013 and implications for AA flyers (new)
AA - US Merger Agreement / Announcement / DOJ Action Discussion (consolidated, and now closed to new posts)
There is an existing thread in the AA forum that may be useful to US and AA Flyertalkers:
US-AA Merger: Just the Facts thread
As facts become posted, that should be the place to look.
Merger discussion, speculation, and other questions can be directed here, or the similar thread in the AA forum:
MERGER: US and AA 9 Dec 2013 and implications for AA flyers (new)
AA - US Merger Agreement / Announcement / DOJ Action Discussion (consolidated, and now closed to new posts)
US/AA merger- MASTER DISCUSSION THREAD/incl 'when will US leave STAR'
#76
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Tampa, FL
Programs: US GP, Marriott Platinum, Hyatt Diamond
Posts: 13
Seems as though we might be seeing some of you within our ranks in the future and perhaps some of you will be looking elsewhere (DL/UA).
It is quite interesting to see the disdain that some of you have for oneworld.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68xF-j9h6us
It is quite interesting to see the disdain that some of you have for oneworld.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68xF-j9h6us
The camps split between AA and US, DL and UA, etc. are just as passionate about their sides as Chevy vs Dodge or Apple vs Android.
Can you give some opinion on how you feel AA's mid-level elites are treated (e.g., upgrade list) and the experience in general? I have about 7,000 AA mi after a trip to LAS last year and I actually got moved to F because I was dlying alone on a Y ticket.
I am, however, looking forward to a native iOS app with Passbook.
#77
Join Date: Oct 2011
Programs: UsAir,Priority Club, Bing, Southwest
Posts: 124
I hope I am wrong but I am thinking that the miles requirements for those envoy seats will now be astronomical. I was able to do it for 100K per seat annually. This summer I had to go through *A instead of directly with US as they wanted 225k per seat. I am assuming that will be the new norm and that I won't have the saftey net of going through *A for the 100K per ticket like I did for this summer out on Luf and return on UA.
#78
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Washington, DC
Programs: US-CP, UA, Marriott Rewards, HHonors, Avis,
Posts: 4,549
Yup if I stick with AA/US, I will be very happy with the IT side of things (assumig of course AA's IT shop wins--- if it doesn't, I will die a little on the inside).
Will also be happy to have Main Cabin Select option on tatl flights. CP certificates are a pain in the backside to use, and on the shortish trip to the UK I can deal with Y if I have just a little more leg room.
It's definitely not all bad, but still really wishing things didn't have to change on me.
Will also be happy to have Main Cabin Select option on tatl flights. CP certificates are a pain in the backside to use, and on the shortish trip to the UK I can deal with Y if I have just a little more leg room.
It's definitely not all bad, but still really wishing things didn't have to change on me.
#80
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Sun Prairie, WI
Programs: AA Executive Platinum, HH Diamond, National Executive
Posts: 1,786
So this is what it is like on the FT board after a major announcement? I started reading when there were 4 pages and am now finally posting on the 6th.
I'm not too concerned with the changing to OW. I don't have the miles accrued yet (only about 110K in the bank) to really take advantage of it. Also, I've never booked an award ticket beside to Hawaii so I guess I don't know what I'm missing.
I do like being able to book Quantas as I will be going to Australia every other year moving forward. I am concerned because I will need to head to Australia in August and want to ensure it is credited to my US/AA account. I was planning on booking UA but depending on when the switch to OW takes place I may credit to Quantas. Ughh who knows what to do here.
My two main concerns as to whether to stay or go from US are whether PHX remains a hub and the potential for upgrades. I can't really do anything about upgrades and it doesn't sound like any of ther other airlines are any better. I guess wait and see is best. Here's to hoping that US management keeps the upgrades the same (with more elites obviously). The extra leg room in E+ or whatever it is would be nice as well.
I really just prefer to fly as direct as possible.
As far as PHX being a hub... I love the FAQs...
4. Will you still keep flying to my city?
The combined company is expected to maintain all existing hubs and service to all destinations currently served by American Airlines and US Airways, and to expand small-city service, providing significant benefits to those communities.
I should print this out and when PHX isn't a hub anymore refer back to it. I'm sure that would work!
I'm not too concerned with the changing to OW. I don't have the miles accrued yet (only about 110K in the bank) to really take advantage of it. Also, I've never booked an award ticket beside to Hawaii so I guess I don't know what I'm missing.
I do like being able to book Quantas as I will be going to Australia every other year moving forward. I am concerned because I will need to head to Australia in August and want to ensure it is credited to my US/AA account. I was planning on booking UA but depending on when the switch to OW takes place I may credit to Quantas. Ughh who knows what to do here.
My two main concerns as to whether to stay or go from US are whether PHX remains a hub and the potential for upgrades. I can't really do anything about upgrades and it doesn't sound like any of ther other airlines are any better. I guess wait and see is best. Here's to hoping that US management keeps the upgrades the same (with more elites obviously). The extra leg room in E+ or whatever it is would be nice as well.
I really just prefer to fly as direct as possible.
As far as PHX being a hub... I love the FAQs...
4. Will you still keep flying to my city?
The combined company is expected to maintain all existing hubs and service to all destinations currently served by American Airlines and US Airways, and to expand small-city service, providing significant benefits to those communities.
I should print this out and when PHX isn't a hub anymore refer back to it. I'm sure that would work!
#81
Join Date: May 2004
Location: DCA ZWU
Programs: AGR WOH
Posts: 1,785
Direct from the source: Upon merger approval, additional information on any future program updates, including account consolidation or benefit alignment, will be provided to customers of our frequent flyer programs.
No.
#82
Join Date: May 2003
Location: N/A
Posts: 403
Oh, one more.
I am dropping the USAiarways Mastercard, as well.
If miles erned on the mastercard could not be used on *A, there is no point for me to keep the card.
Now, I may have to start the "family card" on my husband's UA Mileageplus chase card.
I almost convinced my husband to drop chase card in view of USAirways mastercard.
I'm glad we did not do that.
I am dropping the USAiarways Mastercard, as well.
If miles erned on the mastercard could not be used on *A, there is no point for me to keep the card.
Now, I may have to start the "family card" on my husband's UA Mileageplus chase card.
I almost convinced my husband to drop chase card in view of USAirways mastercard.
I'm glad we did not do that.
#83
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Sun Prairie, WI
Programs: AA Executive Platinum, HH Diamond, National Executive
Posts: 1,786
Do not panic. Mergers do not occur overnight. Nothing will change for several months. When changes occur that will affect your flights or your miles, you will most certainly be informed about them at that time, and most likely will have weeks of advance notice before changes take effect.
#84
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: BWI
Programs: AA Gold, HH Diamond, National Emerald Executive, TSA Disparager Gold
Posts: 15,180
#85
Edited to confirm: I assume you mean that you're booking now for travel in August -- do you mean that you're planning to book in August?
#86
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: BWI
Programs: AA Gold, HH Diamond, National Emerald Executive, TSA Disparager Gold
Posts: 15,180
Direct from the source: Upon merger approval, additional information on any future program updates, including account consolidation or benefit alignment, will be provided to customers of our frequent flyer programs.
Yes, we can earn in *A at least until then, but that uncertainty at this point is going to keep me from booking long haul international until I know one way or another.
#87
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Sun Prairie, WI
Programs: AA Executive Platinum, HH Diamond, National Executive
Posts: 1,786
While nothing has been announced about this yet, I'd bet strongly that if they ticket you, you will fly. I highly doubt that either UA or AA would risk the fallout from canceling ticketed reservations en masse.
Edited to confirm: I assume you mean that you're booking now for travel in August -- do you mean that you're planning to book in August?
Edited to confirm: I assume you mean that you're booking now for travel in August -- do you mean that you're planning to book in August?
#88
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Sun Prairie, WI
Programs: AA Executive Platinum, HH Diamond, National Executive
Posts: 1,786
My concern at this time is the implication in the FAQ that US will exit *A in Q3 when the merger closes.
Yes, we can earn in *A at least until then, but that uncertainty at this point is going to keep me from booking long haul international until I know one way or another.
Yes, we can earn in *A at least until then, but that uncertainty at this point is going to keep me from booking long haul international until I know one way or another.
#89
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: BWI
Programs: AA Gold, HH Diamond, National Emerald Executive, TSA Disparager Gold
Posts: 15,180
While nothing has been announced about this yet, I'd bet strongly that if they ticket you, you will fly. I highly doubt that either UA or AA would risk the fallout from canceling ticketed reservations en masse.
Edited to confirm: I assume you mean that you're booking now for travel in August -- do you mean that you're planning to book in August?
Edited to confirm: I assume you mean that you're booking now for travel in August -- do you mean that you're planning to book in August?
If you're on an international itinerary, especially in C or F, that can be a lot of PQMs lost. It's a lot to lose even in Y.
#90
I'm talking about paying for a flight on say UA and crediting miles to my US account. If US leaves *A in July but I book say in June for my August flight would UA still credit those miles to my US account even though technically they weren't in the same alliance at the time of flight?