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Old Dec 31, 2016, 4:57 pm
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The Fleet Status site is:
https://sites.google.com/site/unitedfleetsite/

At the site, you can find information about the interior features, livery, etc., for every plane in United's fleet.

United Airlines Equipment (Aircraft) Codes (via JOSECONLSCREW28)- code refers to type and configuration but not IFE:

sCO
73A - B737-700 (12/40/66 config)
73Z - B737-700 Guam Configuration
73G - B737-700 Slimline (12/36/78 config)
73Y - B737-800 Slimline Config
73U - B737-800 Guam Configuration
73F - B737-800 (16/48/90 config with SFP)
73Q - B737-800 Slimline with SFP
73C - B737-900 Slimline (20/42/117 config)
73L - B737-900ER Slimline Config
75B - B757-200 Int'l Config
75A - B757-300 (24/57/132 config)
75E - B757-300 Slimline
76P - B767-400ER
78V - B787-8
78Z - B787-9
77Y - B777-200ER ("Version 2")

sUA
19S - A319 version 1
19C - A319 version 2 (ex-CZ frames)
20S - A320 version 1
20C - A320 version 2 (ex-CZ frames)
37K - B737-900ER (tail # 3801-3894)
75K - B757-200 ("ps")
76N - B767-300ER 3-cabin
76C - B767-300ER 2-cabin non-Polaris
76A - B767-300ER Polaris
77G - B777-200 Domestic (Versions 3 & 4)
77J - B777-200ER 3-cabin (27xx Tail#'s) ("Version 1")
77Q - B777-200ER 3-cabin (20xx & 28xx Tail #s) ("Version 1")
77T - B777-300ER Polaris
78U - B787-9 AC# 968-972

Here's what each of the facilities do historically (thanks Bunky):
HKG, heavy widebody maint and reconf (also heavy GUM 737 maint)
LCQ, All Airbus heavy and some medium heavy maint, Airbus mods
DLH, Airbus maintenance
SFO, Airbus D checks, heavy 772 maint, other maint.
IAH, light maint, slimlines on 73G
MIA, 753 ISP, 763 main/WiFi, some 757 maint,
MCN, 737 maint, slimlines, has done some 763 WiFi and maint
CWF, VCV, AMA, paint
XMN, 772 and 744 maintenance
PVG, 788 modifications/WiFi
MCO, maintenance, has done mods in past.
SEA, 77W, 739 new delivery induction, some 789s as well
DEN, 789 new delivery induction
HOU, 737 heavier maintenance, slimline seats
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Old Mar 28, 2017, 9:07 am
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Originally Posted by PsiFighter37
The last 2 are sitting in storage because they don't have Polaris seats yet.
2134 is on property and in service. 2136 reportedly has a full interior and can be picked up when United wants it. Conflicting reports on 2137, as some say it has a full interior, but it was placed in short term storage at PAE. 2135, 2138 and 2139 (most recent frame off the line) are confirmed waiting on interiors.
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Old Mar 28, 2017, 10:17 am
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Originally Posted by warrenw
given the fact that they probably aren't going to lease it to anybody after this.
Why not?

Plenty of 747s have been converted to freighters @:-)

The part that I don't understand, is how it can make good money carrying cargo when it wasn't doing so well with self loading cargo
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Old Mar 28, 2017, 10:31 am
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Originally Posted by EmailKid
The part that I don't understand, is how it can make good money carrying cargo when it wasn't doing so well with self loading cargo
I could be very wrong, but I always thought part of it is that freighters don't require as heavy maintenance checks and aren't subject to as stringent airworthiness requirements...Hence why sUA's 757-200s were appealing to FedEx but no longer to United. (Fuel tanks?)
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Old Mar 28, 2017, 10:51 am
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In all likelihood there won't be any more 747-400 pax to cargo conversions. That market is gone and about 20 747-400 freighters have been permanently taken out of service in just the past three years. As far as FedEx and 757s - FedEx needed to replace its extensive 727-200 freighter fleet and the 757 was pretty much the only candidate. With UA having a very large 757-200 fleet, many of those were perfect candidates for FedEx, and FedEx was only interested in the ones without blended winglets. FedEx has completed the transition from 727 to 757 freighters over the past 8-9 years and now operates a total of 113 757 freighters. 31 of those are ex-UA machines. I seriously doubt they are subject to less stringent airworthiness standards.
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Old Mar 28, 2017, 6:21 pm
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Originally Posted by EmailKid
Why not?

Plenty of 747s have been converted to freighters @:-)

The part that I don't understand, is how it can make good money carrying cargo when it wasn't doing so well with self loading cargo
True, but they have been converted awhile ago. I don't think any have been converted within the past few years have they?

There's also the possibility another emerging customer will want to lease them, say maybe somebody in Africa, but who knows.
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Old Mar 28, 2017, 8:04 pm
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Originally Posted by EWR764
2134 is on property and in service. 2136 reportedly has a full interior and can be picked up when United wants it. Conflicting reports on 2137, as some say it has a full interior, but it was placed in short term storage at PAE. 2135, 2138 and 2139 (most recent frame off the line) are confirmed waiting on interiors.
Excuse the self-quote, but I should note that elsewhere on the interwebs a UAL employee suggests 2138 has a complete interior...
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Old Mar 28, 2017, 8:24 pm
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Originally Posted by warrenw
True, but they have been converted awhile ago. I don't think any have been converted within the past few years have they?

There's also the possibility another emerging customer will want to lease them, say maybe somebody in Africa, but who knows.

Asiana is actually having two conversions done in Tel Aviv right now, but these are conversions from Combi aircraft to full freighters, so a bit different. They already have a cargo door but need a strengthened floor in the previous pax area. One was completed very recently and work is beginning on the second one any day now. Other than that, pax-to-cargo conversions pretty much ended in Aug. 2012. Eight were converted in 2012 and another eight in 2011 so the market was very active then. Nothing since, other than the two Asiana 747s. And if a new operator wanted 747 freighters, no need to spend lots of money on a lengthy conversion. Plenty in storage - close to 20, most of them at Marana and Victorville.
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Thanks for the info! I knew Asiana had taken their combi's out of service (actually they might have one left? not sure) but I didn't know they were converting them. Asiana and Korean Air both have huge cargo operations (KAL being YUUUGE) so I'm not surprised they would expand.
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Old Mar 28, 2017, 10:04 pm
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Originally Posted by EmailKid
Why not?

Plenty of 747s have been converted to freighters @:-)

The part that I don't understand, is how it can make good money carrying cargo when it wasn't doing so well with self loading cargo
Cargo (of the non-self-loading variety) can be packed more densely, is less cost-sensitive in many cases, can be more valuable, doesn't require food, drink, lavatories or flight attendants. Especially something the size of a 747 also comes in with the "very large" cargo where if you have to move it and it won't fit in anything else, you're going to pay whatever you're told to pay to make It happen.

A friend who was a travel agent back in the day said that for a BA SAN-LON route in the (I think) early 90s basically cargo covered 100%+ of the flights operating costs -- any passengers who happened to be onboard were pure profit. And that's just from what was in the holds.
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Old Mar 28, 2017, 10:27 pm
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N48127 entered RFD 2795/27Mar for scimitars
N17133 exiterd RFD 2798/27Mar with scimitars
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Old Mar 29, 2017, 10:48 am
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Originally Posted by MBS MillionMiler
I could be very wrong, but I always thought part of it is that freighters don't require as heavy maintenance checks and aren't subject to as stringent airworthiness requirements.
Freighters are maintained to the same standards as passenger airliners.
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Old Mar 29, 2017, 12:17 pm
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Originally Posted by LarryJ
Freighters are maintained to the same standards as passenger airliners.
Good to know, and thanks for the clarification!
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Old Mar 29, 2017, 10:22 pm
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N75410 exited INT 2774/29Mar with slimlines./scimitars - last UA aircraft leaving INT MRO after it is closing its doors.
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Old Mar 29, 2017, 11:24 pm
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Originally Posted by lincolnjkc
Cargo (of the non-self-loading variety) can be packed more densely, is less cost-sensitive in many cases, can be more valuable, doesn't require food, drink, lavatories or flight attendants.
It doesn't tweet, either
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Old Mar 30, 2017, 5:26 am
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Even in the US it's possible, recall Delta pulled one from MZJ after one active frame severe damaged by hail en route to ICN.

Originally Posted by warrenw
True, but they have been converted awhile ago. I don't think any have been converted within the past few years have they?

There's also the possibility another emerging customer will want to lease them, say maybe somebody in Africa, but who knows.
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