kapkap46

Thanks for that. I guess I have a hard time understanding how you can add an additional seat in a row and end up being more spacious.

I looked at the seatguru map and it shows the aisles don't line up which maybe I could see how they get the space.

I was using the UNITED map and the seats are lined up so I can't see where the space would come from.

Since this is a daytime flight and I am not interested in the lie flat, spaciousness is what is important to me and of course it is nice not to have to climb over people when you are paying for Business.

swm61230

Actually I would rather see the more seats available then less.

LAX88

Everything about the PMUA J seat is mediocre. I like the PMCO/current BusinessFirst seats, however. ^

WineCountryUA

Spacious -- potentially means different things to different people. Such as
-- seat width
-- seat length (as a bed)
-- foot well size
-- spacing between seats
-- ease of access to aisle
-- sense of personal space / privacy / visual line of sight
-- .... {and most probably have additional factors}

as has been discussed (numerous times) the sCO and sUA seats are different and neither is superior in all of the, for all the seats in business, ... There is no simple single answer for everyone.

JOSECONLSCREW28

^

uastarflyer

How about the IFE software?

bocastephen

If the OP thinks those 2-4-2 seats on the 777 are bad, just wait until they board that NRT SEA flight with the ancient 2-3-2 C cabin and the postage-stamp entertainment screens....they'll really be thrilled.

TravelBeat

The IFE interface on the sCO planes (those with on-demand systems) is the original Continental Airlines system updated with new UNITED splash screens and logos.

And they're terrible.

I can't call up the air show AND listen to music at the same time, like how I can on the sUA interface? The navigation on those things are also time consuming and clunky.

Time for the airline to upgrade them to something much more user friendly.

As for sUA vs sCO BusinessFirst seats, the sCO's narrow foot wells are definitely a downside. The location of the headphone jack isn't ideal for me either, and the seat controls don't give you much of a choice on repositioning your leg rest to your desired spot. And the airbag attached the seat belt can be an impediment too.

The sUA seat gives you less storage space, and yes, having experienced the middle seats in the 2-4-2 configuration, it can be really awkward rubbing knees with the lady reclined in the seat next to you.

For me, service is more important than the seat. I only recently sat up front on a sCO International flight and I couldn't believe how badly the BF pax were spoiled by the flight attendants. I think the bread basket came by at least a dozen times during the meal service!

I had to check the ticket stub to make sure I was actually on United!

5khours

The PMUA 2-4-2 have more seat/bed space than

PMCO 2-2-2
NH staggered
DL Herringbone
AC
TG (new or old)
CX

While the seats look cramped and lack privacy, if you're tall or wide they give you more room and are more comfortable than just about any other biz seat out there.

kapkap46

I have to admit I just don't care about those IFE"s. I have my IPAD with everything I want to watch instead of some dated stuff the airlines pay peanuts for.

Glad to hear you had some good service in Business. My last trip unfortunately I was in Economy and we never saw an FA for hours on end and if you rang the bell for something to drink , you got a dirty scowl.

entropy

The PMUA 2-4-2 isn't that bad. Its less private, but unless you're in F, or on a private plane, you're going to exist with other people. Being in the middle of the 4 is the same as being in a window, inconvenience wise.

The PMUA seats are more comfortable to me than the CO ones, and the IFE is much better.

ORDnHKG

If you know what NH offers for BKK-NRT, I think you would choose UA 2-4-2 instead of NH.

NH flies 763 for BKK-NRT, even though it is 2-1-2 config in C, but the seat is horrible, and there is not much to see with the PTV (unless you are Japanese, as there are tons of Japanese programs, but it doesn't even have any English subtitles)

bldr1k

I guess it is all relative. For me the 2-4-2 lie-flat seats are wonderful compared to coach. 15 hours in coach is a HORRIBLE experience (especially if you do it a lot) where 15 hours in these business seats is a pleasure.

I agree it would be nice if they were wider and more-private, especially for the $10-20K they charge.

og

Sorry to spoil the fun, but you may not know about CX's new Business class seat.

XCstud

Who pays $10 - $20k for a business class seat, especially on UA? Are you buying a ticket to fly tonight? You can buy F tickets in that price range and have plenty of privacy.