Last edit by: JDiver
Post #116 by the Community Director:
"I've no plans to close the forum."
It's great to see new voices in this thread. Some have just learned of the Smoking Forum and hopefully will now use it. For the many reasons listed above:
I've no plans to close the forum.
Carol
Community Director
"I've no plans to close the forum."
It's great to see new voices in this thread. Some have just learned of the Smoking Forum and hopefully will now use it. For the many reasons listed above:
- It's a resource forum that doesn't require give and take conversation to be of value
- Smoking has become a negative topic in general. This forum is a safe haven for discussion.
- It doesn't take resources from other forums
I've no plans to close the forum.
Carol
Community Director
Closing the Smoking Section Forum [Update: it will stay open]
#46
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No, it's not as this information could be contained in a wiki post in each hotel forum instead in a dedicated forum however that option was never really considered by TB in their rush to mint yet another forum without regard to how much or how little it would be used.
#47
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No because not every member uses the wikis and it's not just each hotel forum but also airports and that would mean a wiki in every destination forum and perhaps also those threads in airline specific forums which have dedicated "connections and logistics at xxx airport" threads. Or in simple terms, why have information which is centralized decentralized and scattered all over Flyertalk?
#48
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No because not every member uses the wikis and it's not just each hotel forum but also airports and that would mean a wiki in every destination forum and perhaps also those threads in airline specific forums which have dedicated "connections and logistics at xxx airport" threads. Or in simple terms, why have information which is centralized decentralized and scattered all over Flyertalk?
It should also be noted that currently* wikis are not visible when accessing FT via mobile devices & many FTers access FT via mobile devices, so they wouldn't even see the information if it was put in wikis.
* No ETA by IB when they're going to change that.
Some can continue to flog the Marlboro man's dead horse if they so desire, but I'm not seeing a lot of support for closing the forum & don't think it will happen. It's a niche forum, it's a different type of forum in that discussions were never expected other than perhaps the occasional question for clarifying some information, and those who utilize the forum are happy w/ it.
Cheers.
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#49
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Apparently, this message has been forgotten as it is on a previous page. A reminder, then, why
posts may have been deleted or why anyone doubting their post meets the "welcoming - friendly" phrasing might think of editing:
posts may have been deleted or why anyone doubting their post meets the "welcoming - friendly" phrasing might think of editing:
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#50
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This.
It should also be noted that currently* wikis are not visible when accessing FT via mobile devices & many FTers access FT via mobile devices, so they wouldn't even see the information if it was put in wikis.
* No ETA by IB when they're going to change that.
Some can continue to flog the Marlboro man's dead horse if they so desire, but I'm not seeing a lot of support for closing the forum & don't think it will happen. It's a niche forum, it's a different type of forum in that discussions were never expected other than perhaps the occasional question for clarifying some information, and those who utilize the forum are happy w/ it.
Cheers.
It should also be noted that currently* wikis are not visible when accessing FT via mobile devices & many FTers access FT via mobile devices, so they wouldn't even see the information if it was put in wikis.
* No ETA by IB when they're going to change that.
Some can continue to flog the Marlboro man's dead horse if they so desire, but I'm not seeing a lot of support for closing the forum & don't think it will happen. It's a niche forum, it's a different type of forum in that discussions were never expected other than perhaps the occasional question for clarifying some information, and those who utilize the forum are happy w/ it.
Cheers.
Like the Uber forum, which is also struggling to take flight, the Smoking Lounge should be marked for continued assessment.
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#52
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I guess I disagree on what is considered a "rush to mint yet another forum..." when the idea of a smoking forum was first proposed by Dovster on April 19 2015 (thread here - http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/talkb...who-smoke.html), the motioned/seconded thread (this one) appeared on June 28 2015, and the first "results" of the vote were posted on July 5 2015. If about 2+ months to get a motion/second and then about a week after the motion/second for the pass/fail result is a "rush to mint yet another forum", would you please enlighten me as to what a reasonable amount of time for each would be?
Originally Posted by Prospero
Like the Uber forum, which is also struggling to take flight, the Smoking Lounge should be marked for continued assessment.
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#53
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Does anyone know whether there is a FT member who has a vested interest in smoking topics (either interested in smoking or interested in avoiding smoking) that feels the same way tcook052 does, that creating the forum has genuinely been a bad thing for them? I don't have a dog in the fight as I have no interest one way or the other, but I'm genuinely curious if someone who does have that interest would rather find the information in a different place.
#54
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http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/town-...al-forums.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/town-...es-forums.html
#55
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Within the past 18 months, at least eight forums have either been closed or merged into other existing forums:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/town-...al-forums.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/town-...es-forums.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/town-...al-forums.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/town-...es-forums.html
While the budget airline forums were most definitely shuttered for low traffic I thought the closing of car rental forums was more a reorganization than closure for low traffic stat's. I could be wrong however.
#56
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- Budget | Fastbreak
- Dollar | Express Renter Rewards
- Thrifty | Blue Chip Rewards
- Other Car Rental Programs (i.e., Alamo, Enterprise)
I suppose that technically, that is the closing of three forums instead of four; which means the closing of seven forums within the past 18 months.
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#58
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I have no interest in closing the Smoker's forum. As many, many others have written, I don't smoke, but the information included in the threads is valuable to those who do based on the number of views. I prefer the centralized location so those who want to read about where they can smoke can find the information quickly and I can skip it.
#59
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I have no interest in closing the Smoker's forum. As many, many others have written, I don't smoke, but the information included in the threads is valuable to those who do based on the number of views. I prefer the centralized location so those who want to read about where they can smoke can find the information quickly and I can skip it.
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So, 500+ posts about a forum nobody is supposed to be interested in. Not bad.