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Old Oct 31, 2014, 6:05 am
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I'm going to update this first post as more info flows in to create a 'master list' of all credit cards that offer a decent way of accruing miles - so please help out!

If you know of and/or use any other cards (or the ones already mentioned), please share your thoughts.

***ALL VALUES BELOW IN SINGAPORE DOLLARS (SGD)***
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In no particular order (apart from personal preference in terms of good-mileage opportunities):
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1. UOB PRVI Miles VISA, MasterCard, AMEX

VISA:
http://www.uob.com.sg/personal/cards...iles_visa.html
MasterCard:
http://www.uob.com.sg/personal/cards...astercard.html
Amex:
http://www.uob.com.sg/personal/cards...amex_card.html
http://www.uob.com.sg/personal/cards...ard/microsite/



Mileage accrual:
The earn rate will be 1.4 miles for every $1 spent in multiples of S$10 (every multiple of S$5 gives 6 to 7 miles due to 3.5 UNI$ rounding off, every S$10 gives 14 miles), and 2.4 miles for every $1 spent OVERSEAS (every $5 gives 12 miles).

Requirements: min. income $80,000 (not strict).
Cost: First year free, then S$256.80 for main, first two supplementary always free. Annual fee waiver for Amex card if you charge $50,000 or more in a year.
Miles conversion fee: $25 per conversion. UNI$ are combined in 1 cardholder's name/FIN Number/NRIC together for all UOB cards which earn UNI$.

Pros: Best mileage accrual rates for overseas spend only. 20,000 bonus miles and annual fee waiver with spend of $50,000 per year (both only for Amex card). $45 1-way airport transfer voucher for $1,000 overseas spend in a given quarter (Amex only).
Cons: AMEX not always accepted by merchants. Points allocated on every $5 spent, rounded down to next $5. Transfer in blocks of 5000 UNI$ points = 10,000 miles. Points are valid for 2 years (transfer before expiry and they will subsequently be valid for a further 3 years from the date of transfer to KrisFlyer).

2. UOB Preferred Platinum Visa


http://www.uob.com.sg/personal/cards..._platinum.html
http://www.uob.com.sg/personal/cards...visa_card.html


Mileage accrual: Earn 4 miles for every $1 spent using ONLY MOBILE CONTACTLESS every $5 gives 10 UNI$ which equal 20 miles). Same incredible mileage-earning ratio for internet shopping with certain restrictions (travel-related, utilities, etc.). Earn 0.4 mile for every $1 for regular, signature-based payments AND ORPHAN SPEND DUE TO $5 ROUNDING OR EXCEEDING THE BONUS U$2000 SPEND (every $5 gives 1 UNI$ which equal 2 miles).

Earning 4 miles/$ is limited to the first S$1110 spent during the per calendar month (via Mobile Contactless). 2,000UNI$ refers to the extra 9UNI$ and does not include the normal 1UNI$.(Stop when you notice you earn 3UNI$ (1 + bonus 2) for the last S$5 transaction. ($1110/5)x9=1998UNI$, hence the last S$5 transaction will earn 2 bonus UNI$. The total bonus UNI$ awarded to you from qualifying spend on Selected Online Transactions and Mobile Contactless Transactions is capped at UNI$2,000 for each calendar month. THE CAP IS ON THE 9 UNI$ BONUS NOT 10UNI$ TOTAL YOU GET WITH BASE OF U$1 PER $ SPEND

Keep in mind that some merchants offer different, non-mileage accruing awards with UOB cards which are called SMART$. Some popular merchants include Cold Storage, Guardian and Giant Supermarket, ToastBox and Starbucks. A full list of merchants where Mobile contactless transactions will NOT earn miles can be found here:
http://www.uob.com.sg/personal/cards...smartclub.html

Requirements: min. income $30,000 ($60,000 for foreigners).
Cost: First year free, then $192.60 for main and $96.30 for supplementary. Annual fee waived off easily.
Miles conversion fee: $25 per conversion, in blocks of 5000 UNI$=10,000 miles. UNI$ are combined in 1 cardholder's name for all UOB cards.

Pros: Incredible mileage accrual rates for Paywave transactions (not all merchants - some give SMART$ instead which are different rewards!) as well as internet transactions (some restrictions apply).
Cons: Points allocated on every $5 spent, rounded down to next $5. Transfer in blocks of 5000 UNI$ points = 10,000 miles. Points are valid for 2 years (transfer before expiry and they will subsequently be valid for a further 3 years from the date of transfer to KrisFlyer).

3. Citi PremierMiles MasterCard

https://www.citibank.com.sg/credit-cards/travel/premiermiles-card/?ecid=PSGONSGCCAENPM

Mileage accrual: Earn 1.2 miles for every $1 spent. Earn 2 miles for every $1 spent OVERSEAS. 10,000 bonus miles for each annual membership renewal.

Requirements: min. income $50,000 for VISA. Principal cardholder must be at least 21 years of age.
Cost: First year free, then $192.60 for VISA main, supplementary always free. Annual fee waiver available in exchange for forfeiting the 10,000renewal bonus.
Miles conversion fee: $25 per conversion.

Pros: Decent all-rounder, good for overseas spend. Points never expire. Bonus miles for annual card renewal. 11 frequent flyer programs & 3 hotel programs to choose from, including EVA Air - only 25,000 miles for 1 way Business Class within Asia!!
Cons: No miles awarded for EZ-Link & Transitlink transactions. Miles awarded per S$1. Cents not included. 1.2 miles/S$1. Transfer in blocks of 10,000 miles.

4. DBS Altitude VISA/AMEX

http://www.dbs.com/sg/personal/cards...e/default.aspx
http://www.dbs.com/sg/personal/cards...e/default.aspx



Mileage accrual: Earn 1.2 miles for every $1 spent (every $5 gives 3 DBS points which equal 6 miles). Earn 2 miles for every $1 spent OVERSEAS.

Requirements: min. income $80,000.
Cost: First year free, then $180 for main and $90 for supplementary. Annual fee waiver if you charge $25,000 or more in a year.
Miles conversion fee: S$26.75 per transfer, redeem 1700 DBS points to waive off.

Pros: Points never expire. No rounding down transaction amount to nearest $5 (calculation is done as follows: DBS points = 'transaction amount' divided by 5, multiply by 3, after that round down to nearest whole number. Minimum spend is S$1.67. Each DBS point = 2 miles). Earn 3 miles per S$1 spent on all online Flight and Hotel transactions (capped at S$5,000 per month). 10,000 miles renewal bonus if you have to pay card renewal fees.
Cons: All local spend now down to 1.2 miles/$ (since Dec 1, 2013). AMEX not always accepted by merchants. Transfer in blocks of 5000 DBS points = 10,000 miles (on the plus side points don't expire). Per transfer of S$26.75, redeem 1700 DBS points to waive off.

5. Maybank Horizon Platinum Visa

http://info.maybank2u.com.sg/persona...visa-card.aspx



Earn 3.2 air miles (8X TREATS Points) with every dollar spent on dining, petrol, taxi fares and hotel bookings at Agoda.com/horizon
Earn 2 air miles (5X TREATS Points) with every dollar spent on air tickets, travel packages and foreign currency transactions, with a minimal S$300 in a calendar month

Earn 0.4 mile for every $1 spent elsewhere (1 mile for every $2.50 spent).

Requirements: min. income $30,000 ($80,000 for foreigners).
Cost: $150 for main, supplementary always free. Unsure of any annual fee waiver conditions.
Miles conversion fee: In blocks of 5,000 points to 2000 Asia Miles or KrisFlyer. S$26.75 fee applies.

Pros: Great for ticket purchases and overseas spend. Complimentary access to selected VIP airport lounges when you charge a minimum of S$400 in a single transaction on air tickets or travel packages to your Card 3 months prior to the date of travel.
Cons: Great ONLY for ticket purchases and overseas spend. Points are valid for 1 year only, expire either on 30 June or 31 December of the same year if not Rewards Infinite member.

6. Singapore Airlines KrisFlyer Ascend AMEX

https://www.americanexpress.com/sg/s...nd-credit-card



Mileage accrual: Earn 1.2 KrisFlyer miles for every S$1 spent on all your eligible purchases with your Card

Earn 2 KrisFlyer miles for every S$1 equivalent in foreign currency spent overseas on eligible purchases during June and December

Requirements: min. income $50,000 ($60,000 for foreigners). Principal cardholder must be over 21 years of age.
Cost: First year free, otherwise $256.80 for main, 2 supplementary cards always free (more available at $80.25 each). Annual fee cannot be waived unless you spend alot.
Miles conversion fee: None - your KrisFlyer miles are transferred to your account directly with no conversion fees or charges.

Pros: None, except for welcome offers (4 complimentary airport lounge access vouchers, one complimentary night with Millennium Hotels and Resorts).

Cons: Simply nothing special - there are better cards available for all types of purchases, including flight tickets, even with all of the bonuses above applied. AMEX not always accepted by merchants.

7. Citibank Rewards Card

http://www.citibank.com.sg/gcb/credi...CACRENCCHOCALM



Earn 10X Rewards (10 Rewards Points or 4 Miles for every S$1 spent) when you shop for clothes, bags and shoes or at departmental stores or online shopping websites, including SingTel & M1 online bill payment!

Pros: Transfer to 11 FFPs & 3 Hotel programs in blocks of 25,000 points=10,000 miles; S$25 fee.

Cons: Points awarded per S$1 spend. Cents not included. Cannot combined Thank You Points across cards.

8. DBS Woman's World MasterCard® Card

http://www.dbs.com.sg/personal/cards...astercard-card



10X Rewards for Online Retail Purchases
T&C Here: https://www.dbs.com.sg/iwov-resource...s_card_tnc.pdf

Pros: Men also can get this card!! DBS points are combined in 1 cardholder's name. No rounding down transaction amount to nearest $5 (calculation is done as follows: DBS points = 'transaction amount' divided by 5, multiply by 10, after that round down to nearest whole number. Minimum spend is S$1. Each DBS point = 2 miles).

Cons: DBS points are valid for 1 year based on card anniversary date. The additional 9X DBS Points for online retail spend in a calendar month will be awarded on the 16th of the next calendar month. If the above days are not working days, the Points will be awarded on the next working day. The additional 9X DBS Points are only applicable to the first S$2,000 online retail spend every calendar month.

9. OCBC Titanium Rewards Card

https://www.ocbc.com/personal-bankin...astercard.html

10x OCBC$ on your shopping Local & Overseas Shopping Transactions, Local & Overseas Department Store Transactions and Local & Overseas Online Transactions.
The remaining 9 OCBC$ will be posted to the Card Account by the end of the next calendar month

https://www.ocbc.com/assets/pdf/card...ons.pdf?rand=1
10,000 KrisFlyer miles requires OCBC$ 25000, For each conversion of OCBC$ to KrisFlyer miles a fee of S$25 will be charged

10. UOB Lady's Card
https://www.uob.com.sg/personal/card...ard/index.page

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Old Feb 24, 2013, 7:18 am
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Thanks, I'm just worried about the min. spend required as I would be using the JCB card just for supermarket spend and the Platinum one just for dining.

So if for the Platinum one I spend say $300-400/month won't they turn down my request for the waiver?
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Old Feb 24, 2013, 7:33 am
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Originally Posted by aster
Thanks, I'm just worried about the min. spend required as I would be using the JCB card just for supermarket spend and the Platinum one just for dining.

So if for the Platinum one I spend say $300-400/month won't they turn down my request for the waiver?
While I would like to say definitely 'Yes', I have never quite worked out the logic of when banks do or do not give waivers. I have been offered waiver for cards with minimal usage and refused waiver on cards that were heavily used. YMMV.

Bottomline, I stopped worrying about it and just get the card. If waiver is rejected, then cancel the card. Especially for UOB, points go into a common pool so even if you cancel a card, as long as you have another points earning card with UOB, your points stay.
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Old Feb 26, 2013, 4:36 am
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So the best time to cancel is upon renewal as they can then reimburse the cost if you call up soon afterwards? Overall when you cancel do they terminate the card in question at the end of its annual membership year or do they pull the card right away?

On a side note, is it possible to move the monthly statement period to a different time, so that it matches the calendar month for instance?
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Old Feb 26, 2013, 6:37 am
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So the best time to cancel is upon renewal as they can then reimburse the cost if you call up soon afterwards? Overall when you cancel do they terminate the card in question at the end of its annual membership year or do they pull the card right away?

On a side note, is it possible to move the monthly statement period to a different time, so that it matches the calendar month for instance?
Yes. I usually call when the annual fee appears on my statement.

Card is usually terminated at the point of request.

You can call and request for the change of statement period. Never done that before so don't know if it can be done, but I don't see why not.
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Old Feb 26, 2013, 7:22 am
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Thanks, will try that as I have a recurring monthly payment for housing that is round about the statement deadline and is never fixed to a certain day, so I might even get two payments in a statement cycle that would actually cause the second one to be rejected because of the card limit...

On a side note, I take it no card in Singapore offers Avios points (British Airways)? What about in Australia?
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Old Feb 26, 2013, 9:11 am
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Originally Posted by aster
Thanks, will try that as I have a recurring monthly payment for housing that is round about the statement deadline and is never fixed to a certain day, so I might even get two payments in a statement cycle that would actually cause the second one to be rejected because of the card limit...

On a side note, I take it no card in Singapore offers Avios points (British Airways)? What about in Australia?
I only know of 2 cards that does transfer to BA's Avios. Citibank's PremierMiles & American Express (membership rewards).
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Off topic question regarding the UOB Pri miles card, what's the cheapest way to get a travel related charge? (for limo purposes)
Thought about buying 1000 miles for like US$35 + tax

Any cheaper alternatives ?

Thanks.

* didn't want to start a new thread just for this *
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Old Mar 2, 2013, 8:44 am
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Originally Posted by lsed
Off topic question regarding the UOB Pri miles card, what's the cheapest way to get a travel related charge? (for limo purposes)
Thought about buying 1000 miles for like US$35 + tax

Any cheaper alternatives ?
Not sure if buying miles count as travel related charge, because they're usually processed through points.com

I would book a cheapie hotel on Zuji and write off the cost - there are some flea hotels in Thailand that go for as low as S$8! Arguably (slightly) cheaper than even a taxi ride to Changi...
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Old Mar 2, 2013, 8:53 am
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Yes. I usually call when the annual fee appears on my statement.

Card is usually terminated at the point of request.
This is rather silly. I called UOB within a month before my UOB ONE card's anniversary date asking to waive the annual charge, otherwise I'd ask that they cancel it. The customer service officer said they'd have to wait until the charge appeared on my statement, only then can I call to ask for a waiver... and IF THEY AGREE, then they'll reverse the charge. They just can't set the system to not charge the annual fee ahead of the anniversary date.

Anyone encountered this before? What happens if that bank is unwilling to waive - you'd end up cancelling the card but still have that annual fee as outstanding liability to the bank?

What's the approach of other banks in Singapore, like DBS?
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Old Mar 3, 2013, 2:02 am
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Originally Posted by carrotjuice
This is rather silly. I called UOB within a month before my UOB ONE card's anniversary date asking to waive the annual charge, otherwise I'd ask that they cancel it. The customer service officer said they'd have to wait until the charge appeared on my statement, only then can I call to ask for a waiver... and IF THEY AGREE, then they'll reverse the charge. They just can't set the system to not charge the annual fee ahead of the anniversary date.

Anyone encountered this before? What happens if that bank is unwilling to waive - you'd end up cancelling the card but still have that annual fee as outstanding liability to the bank?

What's the approach of other banks in Singapore, like DBS?
I see no harm in doing this.

Even if they charge you the amount and declines to waive it off, you can still cancel it and not pay the annual fee.
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Old Mar 3, 2013, 4:48 am
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In HK, under the HK Association of Bank's Code of Banking Practice, a bank must allow annual fees to be reversed if the card is cancelled within 1 month after annual fee billing. So it's very safe to wait for the fee *then* ask for the waiver here. Again, dunno if a similar banking practice guideline exists for Singapore.
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Originally Posted by lsed
Off topic question regarding the UOB Pri miles card, what's the cheapest way to get a travel related charge? (for limo purposes)
Thought about buying 1000 miles for like US$35 + tax

Any cheaper alternatives ?

Thanks.

* didn't want to start a new thread just for this *
I just received a SMS from UOB. A minimum of of S$500 travel-related spend is needed to utilize the free airport transfer. SMS is as follows:

Effective from 1 April 2013, UOB PRVI Miles Principal Cardmembers must have a prior travel-related transaction of a minimum amount of S$500 to book the complimentary limousine transfer to Singapore Airport. Other T&Cs apply. Visit uobprvimiles.com for details.
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Old Mar 3, 2013, 7:47 pm
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Originally Posted by hclee01
I just received a SMS from UOB. A minimum of of S$500 travel-related spend is needed to utilize the free airport transfer. SMS is as follows:

Effective from 1 April 2013, UOB PRVI Miles Principal Cardmembers must have a prior travel-related transaction of a minimum amount of S$500 to book the complimentary limousine transfer to Singapore Airport. Other T&Cs apply. Visit uobprvimiles.com for details.
Mhhh didn't receive anything....
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Old Mar 3, 2013, 10:21 pm
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Mhhh didn't receive anything....
Just received the SMS as well. Guess it's being sent in batches.
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Originally Posted by hclee01
I just received a SMS from UOB. A minimum of of S$500 travel-related spend is needed to utilize the free airport transfer. SMS is as follows:

Effective from 1 April 2013, UOB PRVI Miles Principal Cardmembers must have a prior travel-related transaction of a minimum amount of S$500 to book the complimentary limousine transfer to Singapore Airport. Other T&Cs apply. Visit uobprvimiles.com for details.
Yes, I also just received the SMS.

I have stopped using UOB PrviMiles Amex's complimentary limo transfer as they uses a private company and their services have been really bad as well as many unreasonable restrictions: Luggage limited to 3 pcs regardless of the number of pax travelling or else $10 per excess bag; although the rule stated "checked" baggage, the driver will argue with you that regardless of the type of bag as long as you have more than 3, there will be a charge of $10 per excess bag.

Once, I had my parents travelling with me as I am allowed to have up to 2 extra pax. Therefore, we have a total of 1 checked luggage per person and each has a cabin bag, a total of 6 bags. The driver wanted to charge me $30 for the 3 "extra" bags. I refused as I said this is not the case. The driver than called his dispatch speaking in Hokkien and uses profanity and referred us as "cheap" passengers. Since the pickup was 3am, there was a midnight surcharge of $10 which I needed to pay. So I told the driver that I will only pay him the $10 and I asked for a reciept which he refused to issue. I then told him I will not pay if he do not issue a receipt, which he relunctantly did (I had made a feedback to UOB on this incident).

Another incident where I had 6 pax and there is an excess pax charge of $10 beyond 3 pax which I paid. But the seats in the van were really uncomfortable as there was practically no leg room bewteen seats (I have taken some photos but did not call to report this).

And another time, the driver could not find his way to my pickup point although I can see him driving around and around a few times. When he finally figured out, he did not apologise for being late and blame it on the signages (this was the 2nd incident and I did not report this as well).


As for other cards:

ANZ VISA Travel Card has a $1,500 prior month required spent (limited to 1 request per 30-day period), they uses Comfort/CityCab which is better.

HSBC VISA Infinite also started to have a required spent for their airport limo transfer and JetQuay services. Effective 01 Jan 2013, you must have a minimum spent of $5K per quarter (or $20K prior year spent) to enjoy the unlimited services. They also use Comfort/CityCab for the airport limo transfer.

I now mainly use HSBC and so far, I have had no incident with Comfort/CityCab and am quite happy with their services.
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