TSO "rubbing" my back!
Oct 1, 2010, 10:59 am
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More disgusting behavior from the TSA... it's not even surprising anymore.
While I wouldn't have the physical reaction that some might (which I understand and would expect an elbow from Ms. Scatter), I would certainly be shocked and would tense/jerk my lower back. Having a horrible lower back problem, this would cause severe and lasting pain.
Touching without prior notification and consent is assault. As it would cause injury in my case, it is also battery. I would insist that an LEO arrest the offending person and call me an ambulance. I'd let my lawyer handle the knee-to-the-groin stuff.
TSO's: Any of you care to try and defend/justify this process? Are you OK touching people without cause or permission?
While I wouldn't have the physical reaction that some might (which I understand and would expect an elbow from Ms. Scatter), I would certainly be shocked and would tense/jerk my lower back. Having a horrible lower back problem, this would cause severe and lasting pain.
Touching without prior notification and consent is assault. As it would cause injury in my case, it is also battery. I would insist that an LEO arrest the offending person and call me an ambulance. I'd let my lawyer handle the knee-to-the-groin stuff.
TSO's: Any of you care to try and defend/justify this process? Are you OK touching people without cause or permission?
Last edited by ScatterX; Oct 1, 2010 at 11:31 am Reason: Added question at end
Oct 1, 2010, 11:31 am
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Oct 1, 2010, 1:55 pm
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If TSOs are sneaking up or approaching from behind to do this new pat down, even if they give verbal warning, that does not account for any Deaf or HoH PAX. Imagine if your ears did not work and a TSO behind you said, "I'm going to pat down your back" and all you felt were someone's hands running down your body from behind!
Oct 1, 2010, 2:00 pm
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If TSOs are sneaking up or approaching from behind to do this new pat down, even if they give verbal warning, that does not account for any Deaf or HoH PAX. Imagine if your ears did not work and a TSO behind you said, "I'm going to pat down your back" and all you felt were someone's hands running down your body from behind!
Oct 1, 2010, 3:39 pm
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If TSOs are sneaking up or approaching from behind to do this new pat down, even if they give verbal warning, that does not account for any Deaf or HoH PAX. Imagine if your ears did not work and a TSO behind you said, "I'm going to pat down your back" and all you felt were someone's hands running down your body from behind!
Unless a TSO agent is standing in front of me and looking me in the eyes to tell me they have to pat my back, then they have not given me sufficient warning that they are about to touch me.
Oct 1, 2010, 4:16 pm
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We are lucky to be just patted. In some countries (e.g. India) military police are the security people. They don't make any eye contact, don't smile, put GROPE! You don't dare to complain as they are very liberal about hitting people.
Oct 1, 2010, 4:20 pm
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Oct 1, 2010, 4:37 pm
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Really? What airport(s) have you experienced this at and when?
Oct 1, 2010, 5:54 pm
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The same is not true for my experiences with TSA.
Oct 1, 2010, 6:00 pm
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Oct 1, 2010, 6:31 pm
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I respect but
I respect your statements but my experience had been different in
Mumbai and Chennai airports. About 2 years back, I asked the security man in Chennai whether I needed to take my laptop out (as I find that in some places, you don't have to) and he went on a tirade of abuses in Hindi, only a little bit of which I understood!
In the same airport, the lady in front of me mentioned something about the security man looked "hasseled" and moved on beyond the security check point. The poor me, next in line was the brunt of attack from a bunch of security men, who didn't even realize that it wasn't me and the offending person was already cleared!
Mumbai and Chennai airports. About 2 years back, I asked the security man in Chennai whether I needed to take my laptop out (as I find that in some places, you don't have to) and he went on a tirade of abuses in Hindi, only a little bit of which I understood!
In the same airport, the lady in front of me mentioned something about the security man looked "hasseled" and moved on beyond the security check point. The poor me, next in line was the brunt of attack from a bunch of security men, who didn't even realize that it wasn't me and the offending person was already cleared!
Oct 1, 2010, 7:07 pm
#59
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More disgusting behavior from the TSA... it's not even surprising anymore.
While I wouldn't have the physical reaction that some might (which I understand and would expect an elbow from Ms. Scatter), I would certainly be shocked and would tense/jerk my lower back. Having a horrible lower back problem, this would cause severe and lasting pain.
Touching without prior notification and consent is assault. As it would cause injury in my case, it is also battery. I would insist that an LEO arrest the offending person and call me an ambulance. I'd let my lawyer handle the knee-to-the-groin stuff.
TSO's: Any of you care to try and defend/justify this process? Are you OK touching people without cause or permission?
While I wouldn't have the physical reaction that some might (which I understand and would expect an elbow from Ms. Scatter), I would certainly be shocked and would tense/jerk my lower back. Having a horrible lower back problem, this would cause severe and lasting pain.
Touching without prior notification and consent is assault. As it would cause injury in my case, it is also battery. I would insist that an LEO arrest the offending person and call me an ambulance. I'd let my lawyer handle the knee-to-the-groin stuff.
TSO's: Any of you care to try and defend/justify this process? Are you OK touching people without cause or permission?
Oct 1, 2010, 7:31 pm
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Introduce these goons to the concept of "lateral transfer to prison b1tch".
I can hope that the smurf ends up eating through a straw from a jail cell.
Last edited by Kiwi Flyer; Oct 2, 2010 at 5:50 pm Reason: merge consecutive posts