"Circle Asia & SWP" New Product with Fare Rules
Mar 1, 2007, 12:31 pm
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"Circle Asia & SWP" New Product with Fare Rules
OW press release, 1 Mar 07
http://www.oneworld.com/ow/news/details?objectID=9726
oneworld's new Circle fare makes exploring Asia and South West Pacific even easier and better value
Exploring Asia and the South West Pacific, including Australia and New Zealand, has been made easier and better value than ever with the launch of another new fare from oneworld®, the leading quality airline alliance.
Circle Asia Explorer will be available from 1 April for travel starting and ending in any of 14 countries served by oneworld's member airlines across Asia and the South West Pacific.
Travellers must pass through each of the alliance's three defined regions across these continents:
North East Asia, including China, Japan, Korea and Taiwan.
South East Asia, including Cambodia, Indonesia, Hong Kong, Malaysia, Philippines, Singapore, Thailand and Vietnam.
South West Pacific, including Australia and New Zealand.
A maximum of eight sectors is included in the ticket, with travel available in First, Business or Economy classes on flights offered by any of the seven oneworld member airlines operating in these regions - British Airways, Cathay Pacific Airways, Finnair, Qantas and, from 1 April, Japan Airlines and two of its affiliates JALways and Japan Asia Airways.
Trips may be a minimum of five days in Economy Class or three days in First or Business Class, and a maximum of a year.
The first international sector must be booked before departure, but all subsequent segments can be left open, for confirmation as the trip progresses.
oneworld already offers two Circle fares - Circle Pacific for travel around the continents bordering the Pacific (North and South America, Asia and Australasia) and Circle Explorer, for travel between Europe, Asia and the South West Pacific via Africa.
These Circle fares are part of an extensive range of alliance fares offered by oneworld. Others include its round-the-world oneworld Explorer fare, its various Visit passes, providing for travel within each continent or Japan and also products for the corporate sector.
Notes
[fare table follows, follow link at top of this post to view as it won't parse properly on here]
1 Fares [see above]
2 Only one international departure and one international arrival permitted from/to the country where the journey starts.
3 Only one international departure and one international arrival permitted in each of the three regions.
4 All flights must be on services marketed and operated by the airlines participating – so code-shares operated by other airlines are not included.
5 Travel on Cathay Pacific flights between Hong Kong and Hanoi are excluded.
6 Children aged 11 or under pay 75 per cent of the adult fare, and infants, aged less than two not occupying a seat, pay 10 per cent.
7 Available from 1 April on oneworld.com or any oneworld member airline's sales outlets.
8 Specific terms and conditions apply.
http://www.oneworld.com/ow/news/details?objectID=9726
oneworld's new Circle fare makes exploring Asia and South West Pacific even easier and better value
Exploring Asia and the South West Pacific, including Australia and New Zealand, has been made easier and better value than ever with the launch of another new fare from oneworld®, the leading quality airline alliance.
Circle Asia Explorer will be available from 1 April for travel starting and ending in any of 14 countries served by oneworld's member airlines across Asia and the South West Pacific.
Travellers must pass through each of the alliance's three defined regions across these continents:
North East Asia, including China, Japan, Korea and Taiwan.
South East Asia, including Cambodia, Indonesia, Hong Kong, Malaysia, Philippines, Singapore, Thailand and Vietnam.
South West Pacific, including Australia and New Zealand.
A maximum of eight sectors is included in the ticket, with travel available in First, Business or Economy classes on flights offered by any of the seven oneworld member airlines operating in these regions - British Airways, Cathay Pacific Airways, Finnair, Qantas and, from 1 April, Japan Airlines and two of its affiliates JALways and Japan Asia Airways.
Trips may be a minimum of five days in Economy Class or three days in First or Business Class, and a maximum of a year.
The first international sector must be booked before departure, but all subsequent segments can be left open, for confirmation as the trip progresses.
oneworld already offers two Circle fares - Circle Pacific for travel around the continents bordering the Pacific (North and South America, Asia and Australasia) and Circle Explorer, for travel between Europe, Asia and the South West Pacific via Africa.
These Circle fares are part of an extensive range of alliance fares offered by oneworld. Others include its round-the-world oneworld Explorer fare, its various Visit passes, providing for travel within each continent or Japan and also products for the corporate sector.
Notes
[fare table follows, follow link at top of this post to view as it won't parse properly on here]
1 Fares [see above]
2 Only one international departure and one international arrival permitted from/to the country where the journey starts.
3 Only one international departure and one international arrival permitted in each of the three regions.
4 All flights must be on services marketed and operated by the airlines participating – so code-shares operated by other airlines are not included.
5 Travel on Cathay Pacific flights between Hong Kong and Hanoi are excluded.
6 Children aged 11 or under pay 75 per cent of the adult fare, and infants, aged less than two not occupying a seat, pay 10 per cent.
7 Available from 1 April on oneworld.com or any oneworld member airline's sales outlets.
8 Specific terms and conditions apply.
Mar 1, 2007, 1:29 pm
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Given that all the loaded fares are identical, it appears that OW decided not to make an arbitrage potential for this fare. The rules are also carefully chosen to eliminate high-yield routes (e.g. HKG-NRT-HKG is prohibited by putting HKG in separate region from China and Japan). And there are both segment and mileage limits that are somewhat restrictive. Perhaps an omen of the future of other OW fare products.
Mar 1, 2007, 2:44 pm
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e.g. Japan, Hong Kong, Australia?
Or is Australia, New Zealand, Japan, Hong Kong, Indonesia a valid routing?
Mar 1, 2007, 2:58 pm
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Given that all the loaded fares are identical, it appears that OW decided not to make an arbitrage potential for this fare. The rules are also carefully chosen to eliminate high-yield routes (e.g. HKG-NRT-HKG is prohibited by putting HKG in separate region from China and Japan). And there are both segment and mileage limits that are somewhat restrictive. Perhaps an omen of the future of other OW fare products.
The limit of one international arrival and departure reduces it's usefulness but can still include a bit of travel around asia and Australia.
NZ harder to include thanks to 17,000 mileage limit.
Mar 1, 2007, 3:04 pm
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I think the wording meant to be each country visited can only be entered and left once, OR possibly each region can only be entered and left once (so no going back and forth between HGK & NRT for example).
If either is correct, then something like syd-akl-hkg-sin-kix-nrt-syd would be allowed.
Mar 1, 2007, 6:57 pm
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Originally Posted by virtualtroy
NB No ex-CMB prices loaded yet, from what I am able to determine.
Mar 1, 2007, 8:20 pm
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I've done a conversion of the fares to AUD:
Code:
Fares (AUD) Economy Business First
<=13K <=17K <=13K <=17K <=13K <=17K
Australia 1,999 2,299 4,649 5,399 6,049 7,049
Cambodia 2,430 2,796 4,488 5,159 6,319 7,274
China 3,066 3,499 5,673 6,565 8,098 9,351
Hong Kong 3,023 3,449 5,592 6,472 7,983 9,219
Indonesia 2,430 2,796 4,488 5,159 6,319 7,274
Japan 2,626 3,064 5,056 5,898 7,223 8,306
Korea 2,976 3,395 5,506 6,372 7,860 9,077
Malaysia 2,428 2,763 4,512 5,155 6,353 7,261
New Zealand 2,496 2,881 5,286 6,057 6,442 7,507
Philippines 2,430 2,796 4,488 5,159 6,319 7,274
Singapore 2,492 2,836 4,640 5,328 6,531 7,476
Taiwan 2,868 3,273 5,307 6,141 7,576 8,749
Thailand 2,714 3,123 5,011 5,765 7,064 8,123
Vietnam 2,430 2,796 4,488 5,159 6,319 7,274
Mar 5, 2007, 7:51 am
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Are the detail fare rules loaded into CRS yet? Also what is the fare basis code?
It seems like a really good product as the price for a simple Aust - Asia is lower than what is on offer at the moment (Cx/QF/VS D/C Class to HKG is around $5.3K) and you get to goto more countries than other fares
It seems like a really good product as the price for a simple Aust - Asia is lower than what is on offer at the moment (Cx/QF/VS D/C Class to HKG is around $5.3K) and you get to goto more countries than other fares
Mar 30, 2007, 2:41 am
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Rules for new "Circle Asia & SWP" Fare
From cxagents.com:
The full rules aren't yet on the site - I'll copy them to mine when they appear.
The full rules aren't yet on the site - I'll copy them to mine when they appear.
Code:
Introduce oneworld Circle Asia and South West Pacific Fare
Please be advised that a new oneworld Circle Asia and South West Pacific
Explorer Fare will be introduce for ticket issue on/after 01 April 2007.
Some information as below for system will be updated.
- Travel must be on the service of AY/BA/CX/QF/JC/JL/JO/EG/NU and their
affiliates only.
Travel originating and terminating in:
Australia, New Zealand, Hong Kong, Singapore, Malaysia, Indonesia,
Thailand, philippines, Vietnam, Cambodia, Taiwan, China, Japan, Korea.
- A maximum of 8 flight segments are permitted for the entire journey.
For the purpose of this rule, regions are defined as follows:
North East Asia - Taiwan, China, Japan, Korea
South East Asia - Hong Kong, Singapore, Indonesia, Malaysia,
Philippines, Vietnam, Cambodia
South West Pacific - Australia, New Zealand
- For travel originating Hong Kong, the fare is :
Fare Basis HKD
First AAS13 47700
AAS17 55080
Business DAS13 33410
DAS17 38670
Economy LAS13 18060
LAS17 20610
Note: AAS13/DAS13/LAS13 - not exceed a MPM of 13000
AAS17/DAS17/LAS17 - not exceed a MPM of 17000
- The journey must involve travel to all three regions and must include
one direct flight between the following regions :
A/ N.E. Asia - S.W. Pacific
B/ S.E. Asia - S.W. Pacific
C/ N.E. Asia - S.E. Asia
- Minimum stay
First and Business Class - 3 Days
Economy Class - 5 Days
- Maximum stay
12 Months
- Permitted stopovers
13000 Miles - minimum two maximum four free stopovers
17000 MILES - mimimum two maximum five free stopovers
- Children 75 percent
- Infants 10 percent
Apr 1, 2007, 9:42 pm
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QF status credits on Circle Asia SWP
Has anybody looked at maximising QF Status Credits on this fare ?
Pity about the mileage limits.
I guess this fare is less effective for QF Status Credits than a xONEn.
Pity about the mileage limits.
I guess this fare is less effective for QF Status Credits than a xONEn.