Marriott-family hotels in Bangkok, Thailand, pre-2014
Nov 8, 2013, 5:46 pm
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the sense of entitlement by several FTers just continues to amaze me as they complain that they ONLY got their entitlements whether they paid rack rate/discounted, used points, used certs or were comp'ed and regardless of their status, or at times even no status, they just "want" and "demand" and complain when they "only" get what the property is required to provide them......
BTW, at times the Renaissance, especially during one of their "flash sales" is actually less then the nearby Courtyard (which in fact is a converted apartment building as opposed to a newly built hotel as the Renaissance is).... further, the CY is located at the end of a dead end street (for vehicles) thereby forcing the guests using a taxi to empty onto Rajadamri Rd, one of the busier streets in BKK, especially during rush hour.........at least at the Renaissance one could cross Ploenchit by sky-bridge to travel towards Sukhumvit as opposed to Rama 1......
the sense of entitlement by several FTers just continues to amaze me as they complain that they ONLY got their entitlements whether they paid rack rate/discounted, used points, used certs or were comp'ed and regardless of their status, or at times even no status, they just "want" and "demand" and complain when they "only" get what the property is required to provide them......
BTW, at times the Renaissance, especially during one of their "flash sales" is actually less then the nearby Courtyard (which in fact is a converted apartment building as opposed to a newly built hotel as the Renaissance is).... further, the CY is located at the end of a dead end street (for vehicles) thereby forcing the guests using a taxi to empty onto Rajadamri Rd, one of the busier streets in BKK, especially during rush hour.........at least at the Renaissance one could cross Ploenchit by sky-bridge to travel towards Sukhumvit as opposed to Rama 1......
I don't quite understand why you expect to receive more than you are entitled to as a GOLD. You get a larger room and club access (just as I do as a Plat) at both the Ren and then CY--never a two room suite--what more are you looking for? Sounds like an over-entitled mentality.
I agree that traffic on Ploenchit is horrendous, but you can walk to BTS (one block) or walk up to the Erawan/Ratchadarmi intersection two blocks (if not too lazy) and get a taxi--but good luck that it will be any better going anywhere than Ploenchit at 4-8 PM.
Staying at the CY requires a walk (or tuk-tuk ride) to Ratchadarmi where traffic is not much better than Ploenchit. A couple of weeks ago coming into the CY at 2:30 PM I was stuck in a taxi on Ratchadarmi for over an hour just coming off Wireless Road (like 1 mile or less). So I disagree that the Ren is in a bad location. Traffic problems in BKK are simply a fact of life and you learn to adjust. If on business you plan well ahead--or if on holiday and no agenda what does it matter.
I also agree that the CY is a great value with G&P elites comp buffet breakfast at MoMo and lounge access (lite lounge--but great for the room night price).
Finally--where in the world do you get your pricing comparison? The Ren is only 500 -700 THB ($15-$20) more than the CY consistently--never, ever 2x. I stay at both very often at all times of the year and have never seen anything like what you are alleging on any of my bookings.
I agree that traffic on Ploenchit is horrendous, but you can walk to BTS (one block) or walk up to the Erawan/Ratchadarmi intersection two blocks (if not too lazy) and get a taxi--but good luck that it will be any better going anywhere than Ploenchit at 4-8 PM.
Staying at the CY requires a walk (or tuk-tuk ride) to Ratchadarmi where traffic is not much better than Ploenchit. A couple of weeks ago coming into the CY at 2:30 PM I was stuck in a taxi on Ratchadarmi for over an hour just coming off Wireless Road (like 1 mile or less). So I disagree that the Ren is in a bad location. Traffic problems in BKK are simply a fact of life and you learn to adjust. If on business you plan well ahead--or if on holiday and no agenda what does it matter.
I also agree that the CY is a great value with G&P elites comp buffet breakfast at MoMo and lounge access (lite lounge--but great for the room night price).
Finally--where in the world do you get your pricing comparison? The Ren is only 500 -700 THB ($15-$20) more than the CY consistently--never, ever 2x. I stay at both very often at all times of the year and have never seen anything like what you are alleging on any of my bookings.
Nov 12, 2013, 8:38 am
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BTW, at times the Renaissance, especially during one of their "flash sales" is actually less then the nearby Courtyard (which in fact is a converted apartment building as opposed to a newly built hotel as the Renaissance is).... further, the CY is located at the end of a dead end street (for vehicles) thereby forcing the guests using a taxi to empty onto Rajadamri Rd, one of the busier streets in BKK, especially during rush hour.........at least at the Renaissance one could cross Ploenchit by sky-bridge to travel towards Sukhumvit as opposed to Rama 1......
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BTW, at times the Renaissance, especially during one of their "flash sales" is actually less then the nearby Courtyard (which in fact is a converted apartment building as opposed to a newly built hotel as the Renaissance is).... further, the CY is located at the end of a dead end street (for vehicles) thereby forcing the guests using a taxi to empty onto Rajadamri Rd, one of the busier streets in BKK, especially during rush hour.........at least at the Renaissance one could cross Ploenchit by sky-bridge to travel towards Sukhumvit as opposed to Rama 1......
I routinely look 2-3 months in advance and have never seen this!! And I don't believe I ever will.
And as far as the entitlement comments, I simply stated that the CY routinely gives me the Buffet Breakfast in MoMo and Ren has never given it to me.
Just the facts and one of the things most people use in determining where to spend their own money!!!
Nov 12, 2013, 3:21 pm
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challenge accepted (damn this is gonna be hard !!)
all you need do is look at tomorrow night (14 Nov) -
Renaissance is Thb 5900
Courtyard is Thb 6000
and, as for your sense of entitlement, where in MRs does it require any Courtyard to provide G/Ps breakfast? since you only want to state facts - it doesn't, so when the CY provides you brekkie it's not an entitlement due and if and when they decide to take this perk away, what will you complain about then........
so, once again it's kapkap46 (-1) and dfe (+1).........
and, once again, as previously stated, during one of Ren's "flash sales" their rates are significantly better then the CYs......
all you need do is look at tomorrow night (14 Nov) -
Renaissance is Thb 5900
Courtyard is Thb 6000
and, as for your sense of entitlement, where in MRs does it require any Courtyard to provide G/Ps breakfast? since you only want to state facts - it doesn't, so when the CY provides you brekkie it's not an entitlement due and if and when they decide to take this perk away, what will you complain about then........
so, once again it's kapkap46 (-1) and dfe (+1).........
and, once again, as previously stated, during one of Ren's "flash sales" their rates are significantly better then the CYs......
I doubt it and would love to see you prove it. I have looked many times over the last 6 months and it has never even been close except if CY was close to sold out and had raised the rates on the few rooms left. So it is possible when looking last minute since CY is much smaller and can get to sold out status.
I routinely look 2-3 months in advance and have never seen this!! And I don't believe I ever will.
And as far as the entitlement comments, I simply stated that the CY routinely gives me the Buffet Breakfast in MoMo and Ren has never given it to me.
Just the facts and one of the things most people use in determining where to spend their own money!!!
I routinely look 2-3 months in advance and have never seen this!! And I don't believe I ever will.
And as far as the entitlement comments, I simply stated that the CY routinely gives me the Buffet Breakfast in MoMo and Ren has never given it to me.
Just the facts and one of the things most people use in determining where to spend their own money!!!
Last edited by BKKLEE; Nov 12, 2013 at 4:10 pm
Nov 12, 2013, 4:18 pm
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all you need do is look at tomorrow night (14 Nov) -
Renaissance is Thb 5900
Courtyard is Thb 6000
and, as for your sense of entitlement, where in MRs does it require any Courtyard to provide G/Ps breakfast? Fact - it doesn't, so when the CY provides you brekkie it's not an entitlement due and if and when they decide to take this perk away, what will you complain about then........
so, once again it's kapkap46 (-1) and dfe (+1).........
and, once again, as previously stated, during one of Ren's "flash sales" their rates are significantly better then the CYs......
Renaissance is Thb 5900
Courtyard is Thb 6000
and, as for your sense of entitlement, where in MRs does it require any Courtyard to provide G/Ps breakfast? Fact - it doesn't, so when the CY provides you brekkie it's not an entitlement due and if and when they decide to take this perk away, what will you complain about then........
so, once again it's kapkap46 (-1) and dfe (+1).........
and, once again, as previously stated, during one of Ren's "flash sales" their rates are significantly better then the CYs......
Nov 14, 2013, 8:54 pm
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wow I'm shocked at how much better everyone likes the renaissance! I'm gold and was planning a trip to bangkok next year, and generally whenever I am in Asia I pick the Jw's because they are so good over there however the commentary here is certainly making me reconsider for Bangkok!
Nov 14, 2013, 9:01 pm
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unless you're looking for some low-class "ladies" of the evening, khatoeys or a stay with a significant # of third-world nationals, then the Ren is a much better choice ........
wow I'm shocked at how much better everyone likes the renaissance! I'm gold and was planning a trip to bangkok next year, and generally whenever I am in Asia I pick the Jw's because they are so good over there however the commentary here is certainly making me reconsider for Bangkok!
Nov 14, 2013, 9:40 pm
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Wow! that definitely makes me lean towards the Ren!! But what if we are there for sightseeing? which is the best for that, and keep in mind that the biggest thing for me is I would like to be near a sky train stop? and on a related note, how good is the sky train destination wise? I mean is it like HKG where it is cheap and incredibly convenient?
Nov 14, 2013, 9:45 pm
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leave the front door of the Ren and walk directly to the main road (2-minutes) - SkyTrain station located right there......
SkyTrain will take you to most places (and connects with the underground train in 2 places although its another concession so new ticket) except Wat Arun/Wat PraGow (temple/old palace area) but you can take the SkyTrain to Thaksin Bridge station and change to the tourist boat which will get you around ALL of the crazy traffic here and it a relaxing trip on the river........for easy use they even have an unlimited day-pass for around Thb100 ($3)...
SkyTrain will take you to most places (and connects with the underground train in 2 places although its another concession so new ticket) except Wat Arun/Wat PraGow (temple/old palace area) but you can take the SkyTrain to Thaksin Bridge station and change to the tourist boat which will get you around ALL of the crazy traffic here and it a relaxing trip on the river........for easy use they even have an unlimited day-pass for around Thb100 ($3)...
Wow! that definitely makes me lean towards the Ren!! But what if we are there for sightseeing? which is the best for that, and keep in mind that the biggest thing for me is I would like to be near a sky train stop? and on a related note, how good is the sky train destination wise? I mean is it like HKG where it is cheap and incredibly convenient?
Nov 14, 2013, 9:54 pm
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leave the front door of the Ren and walk directly to the main road (2-minutes) - SkyTrain station located right there......
SkyTrain will take you to most places (and connects with the underground train in 2 places although its another concession so new ticket) except Wat Arun/Wat PraGow (temple/old palace area) but you can take the SkyTrain to Thaksin Bridge station and change to the tourist boat which will get you around ALL of the crazy traffic here and it a relaxing trip on the river........for easy use they even have an unlimited day-pass for around Thb100 ($3)...
SkyTrain will take you to most places (and connects with the underground train in 2 places although its another concession so new ticket) except Wat Arun/Wat PraGow (temple/old palace area) but you can take the SkyTrain to Thaksin Bridge station and change to the tourist boat which will get you around ALL of the crazy traffic here and it a relaxing trip on the river........for easy use they even have an unlimited day-pass for around Thb100 ($3)...
Nov 14, 2013, 10:01 pm
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enjoy your trip here........rains are almost about to stop and the humidity about to come down but still 35C outside right now (with no chance of snow!)......
December has public holidays on the 5th and 10th and X-mas is celebrated as it means shopping, shopping, shopping.......
December has public holidays on the 5th and 10th and X-mas is celebrated as it means shopping, shopping, shopping.......
Nov 15, 2013, 2:09 am
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Everything BKKLEE describes - and worse!
You will then see why the Ren is an oasis of calm and streets ahead of the JW.
Nov 15, 2013, 2:57 am
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Nov 15, 2013, 3:05 am
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Thanks!
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Nov 15, 2013, 3:11 am
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Indeed. I find Soi 4 to be one of the most depressing places I have visited in Bangkok. Big pass on this one.