Nov 18, 2013, 8:34 am
Last edit by: Boeing_747SP
Aircraft with new C seats
- All aircraft in operation are retrofitted
How to check if your aircraft has new C seats (up to 8 weeks in advance):
http://www.lufthansa.com/de/en/Business-Class-Product
A333 --> A33Q (retrofit), A33P(linefit) (seatmaps) (19|19):
MUC (8|8): D-AIKE, D-AIKF, D-AIKH, D-AIKM, D-AIKN, D-AIKP, D-AIKQ, D-AIKR
FRA (11|11): D-AIKA, D-AIKB, D-AIKC, D-AIKD, D-AIKG, D-AIKI, D-AIKJ, D-AIKK, D-AIKL, D-AIKO, D-AIKS
A343 --> A34Y (42C 225Y seatmaps)(18|18):
FRA (16|16): D-AIFA, D-AIFC, D-AIFE, D-AIFF, D-AIGL, D-AIGM, D-AIGN, D-AIGO, D-AIGS, D-AIGU, D-AIGV, D-AIGW, D-AIGY, D-AIGX, D-AIGZ, D-AIGP (JUMP)
DUS (2|2): D-AIFD, D-AIGT
A340-600 --> A34R (8F 56C 28E 189Y seatmaps)(22|24):
MUC (19|19): D-AIHB, D-AIHC, D-AIHD, D-AIHE, D-AIHF, D-AIHH, D-AIHI, D-AIHK, D-AIHL, D-AIHN, D-AIHQ, D-AIHR, D-AIHS, D-AIHT, D-AIHV, D-AIHW, D-AIHX, D-AIHY, D-AIHZ
FRA (4|5): D-AIHA, D-AIHM, D-AIHO, D-AIHU
A388 --> A38Q (all FRA based)(8F 92C 52E 336M seatmaps) :
FRA (14|14): D-AIMA, D-AIMB, D-AIMC, D-AIMD, D-AIME, D-AIMF, D-AIMG, D-AIMH, D-AIMI, D-AIMJ, D-AIMK, D-AIML, D-AIMM, D-AIMN
B744 -> 74Q (all FRA based)(53C 32E 308M maindeck upperdeck) (67C 32E 272M maindeck upperdeck)(13|13):
FRA (13|13): D-ABTK, D-ABTL, D-ABVM, D-ABVO, D-ABVP, D-ABVR, D-ABVS, D-ABVT, D-ABVU, D-ABVW, D-ABVX, D-ABVY, D-ABVZ
B748 (74H, all are based in FRA and have new F and C (these are all line fits)(seatmaps)(19|19):
D-ABYA, D-ABYC, D-ABYD, D-ABYF, D-ABYG , D-ABYH, D-ABYI, D-ABYJ, D-ABYK, D-ABYL, D-ABYM, D-ABYN, D-ABYO, D-ABYP, D-ABYQ, D-ABYR, D-ABYS, D-ABYT (retro jet), D-ABYU
- All aircraft in operation are retrofitted
How to check if your aircraft has new C seats (up to 8 weeks in advance):
http://www.lufthansa.com/de/en/Business-Class-Product
A333 --> A33Q (retrofit), A33P(linefit) (seatmaps) (19|19):
MUC (8|8): D-AIKE, D-AIKF, D-AIKH, D-AIKM, D-AIKN, D-AIKP, D-AIKQ, D-AIKR
FRA (11|11): D-AIKA, D-AIKB, D-AIKC, D-AIKD, D-AIKG, D-AIKI, D-AIKJ, D-AIKK, D-AIKL, D-AIKO, D-AIKS
A343 --> A34Y (42C 225Y seatmaps)(18|18):
FRA (16|16): D-AIFA, D-AIFC, D-AIFE, D-AIFF, D-AIGL, D-AIGM, D-AIGN, D-AIGO, D-AIGS, D-AIGU, D-AIGV, D-AIGW, D-AIGY, D-AIGX, D-AIGZ, D-AIGP (JUMP)
DUS (2|2): D-AIFD, D-AIGT
A340-600 --> A34R (8F 56C 28E 189Y seatmaps)(22|24):
MUC (19|19): D-AIHB, D-AIHC, D-AIHD, D-AIHE, D-AIHF, D-AIHH, D-AIHI, D-AIHK, D-AIHL, D-AIHN, D-AIHQ, D-AIHR, D-AIHS, D-AIHT, D-AIHV, D-AIHW, D-AIHX, D-AIHY, D-AIHZ
FRA (4|5): D-AIHA, D-AIHM, D-AIHO, D-AIHU
A388 --> A38Q (all FRA based)(8F 92C 52E 336M seatmaps) :
FRA (14|14): D-AIMA, D-AIMB, D-AIMC, D-AIMD, D-AIME, D-AIMF, D-AIMG, D-AIMH, D-AIMI, D-AIMJ, D-AIMK, D-AIML, D-AIMM, D-AIMN
B744 -> 74Q (all FRA based)(53C 32E 308M maindeck upperdeck) (67C 32E 272M maindeck upperdeck)(13|13):
FRA (13|13): D-ABTK, D-ABTL, D-ABVM, D-ABVO, D-ABVP, D-ABVR, D-ABVS, D-ABVT, D-ABVU, D-ABVW, D-ABVX, D-ABVY, D-ABVZ
B748 (74H, all are based in FRA and have new F and C (these are all line fits)(seatmaps)(19|19):
D-ABYA, D-ABYC, D-ABYD, D-ABYF, D-ABYG , D-ABYH, D-ABYI, D-ABYJ, D-ABYK, D-ABYL, D-ABYM, D-ABYN, D-ABYO, D-ABYP, D-ABYQ, D-ABYR, D-ABYS, D-ABYT (retro jet), D-ABYU
New Business class Line- or Retrofit / routes etc.
Feb 20, 2015, 1:53 am
#1471
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Next new 747-8i, D-ABYS arrived in Frankfurt today
Feb 22, 2015, 12:36 am
#1472
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D-ABVX went to XMN. Acc to http://www.mucforum.de/showthread.ph...l=1#post270925 they are doing C retrofits there. So I added that to the Wiki ...
Feb 22, 2015, 1:59 pm
#1473
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FRA (1|17): D-ABVW
Only 13 (D-ABVW/VX/VZ/VR/VM/VY/VP/VU/VS/TK/VT/TL/VO) will get new C, remaining ones will be retired
The wiki seems to imply that 4 will be retired and 13 will be left with the new C? ... or are there more than that to be retired?
Feb 23, 2015, 1:15 am
#1474
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When this thread was started, LH still had about 28 744s. Since January 2012 LH has stored/scrapped 13 744s and 4 more will follow by the end of this year as the remaining 748s come in in H1/2015. Which leaves 13 744s.
Feb 28, 2015, 5:41 am
#1475
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I have a bit of a mystery that I am hoping someone can clear up. We are booked to fly LH408 from DUS to EWR in June. According to the WIKI, both of the A343s out of DUS have new business class, however, when I check the LH website, it shows new business class throughout March, however, old business class starting in April. It also shows the flight time as 25 minutes shorter in April than in March. Is this an aircraft change, even though it shows that it is still an A343?
Feb 28, 2015, 12:32 pm
#1476
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They should have new J out of DUS
Feb 28, 2015, 2:34 pm
#1477
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D-AIGT and GU are moving to DUS this week.
Mar 1, 2015, 1:32 am
#1478
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At risk of asking a question to which there is no answer, is there any indication when the 4 A346s at FRA will get a retrofit or will they be replaced by something else?
They only seem to fly to BOG, JFK, IKA, PHL and DTW
They only seem to fly to BOG, JFK, IKA, PHL and DTW
Mar 1, 2015, 3:05 am
#1479
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I'm on LH426 FRA-PHL in July and it is currently showing A346. How likely would my aircraft change to a A343?
I've looked on FlightAware and the past 2 weeks they have been flying A343 on that route except for few days with A346. Hopefully, I get the new business class in July?
I've looked on FlightAware and the past 2 weeks they have been flying A343 on that route except for few days with A346. Hopefully, I get the new business class in July?
Mar 1, 2015, 11:30 am
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I am sure there are a lot of experts here and can explain the following:New business class was announced in 2012 - today they have not changed all! At the same time they plan now to change 12 744 with new business class within months! In my view they have slow down the convertion in the past as also other airlines (ie. KLM) are converting much faster. In addition I wonder if they announce a new seat just after they have implemented the last one of the current series.
Mar 1, 2015, 11:39 am
#1481
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The reason the retrofit takes so long is that its not just swapping out seats (which goes relatively quick, see premium eco retrofit), but also ding a tip to toe revamp of the entire cabin which involves for example redoing the floor boards, a new IFE system, a new galley layout, a new PRM lavatory and removing quite a bit of equipment in the lower deck of the 346. The idea is not to touch the aircraft again for the remainder of their 8-10 year life.
Mar 2, 2015, 9:36 am
#1482
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D-AIMF (388) is back in FRA after retrofit.
Mar 5, 2015, 4:47 am
#1483
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Mar 9, 2015, 9:18 am
#1484
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I am checking on MIA-FRA for April last week, and the seatmap for the A-380 shows that in the upper deck the business class ends at row 24 and is followed by 3 rows of Premium Economy.
Is this a newer reconfigured version?
Any opinions on the business class seats on this version (I assume they are the newer, full-flat version)? How are rows 23-24 -- are they OK, good, or bad
Thanks in advance for the reply.
Is this a newer reconfigured version?
Any opinions on the business class seats on this version (I assume they are the newer, full-flat version)? How are rows 23-24 -- are they OK, good, or bad
Thanks in advance for the reply.
Mar 11, 2015, 12:34 am
#1485
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D-AIMA (388) arrived in HAM. Only one 388 (MH) left without new C.