Nov 18, 2013, 8:34 am
Last edit by: Boeing_747SP
Aircraft with new C seats
- All aircraft in operation are retrofitted
How to check if your aircraft has new C seats (up to 8 weeks in advance):
http://www.lufthansa.com/de/en/Business-Class-Product
A333 --> A33Q (retrofit), A33P(linefit) (seatmaps) (19|19):
MUC (8|8): D-AIKE, D-AIKF, D-AIKH, D-AIKM, D-AIKN, D-AIKP, D-AIKQ, D-AIKR
FRA (11|11): D-AIKA, D-AIKB, D-AIKC, D-AIKD, D-AIKG, D-AIKI, D-AIKJ, D-AIKK, D-AIKL, D-AIKO, D-AIKS
A343 --> A34Y (42C 225Y seatmaps)(18|18):
FRA (16|16): D-AIFA, D-AIFC, D-AIFE, D-AIFF, D-AIGL, D-AIGM, D-AIGN, D-AIGO, D-AIGS, D-AIGU, D-AIGV, D-AIGW, D-AIGY, D-AIGX, D-AIGZ, D-AIGP (JUMP)
DUS (2|2): D-AIFD, D-AIGT
A340-600 --> A34R (8F 56C 28E 189Y seatmaps)(22|24):
MUC (19|19): D-AIHB, D-AIHC, D-AIHD, D-AIHE, D-AIHF, D-AIHH, D-AIHI, D-AIHK, D-AIHL, D-AIHN, D-AIHQ, D-AIHR, D-AIHS, D-AIHT, D-AIHV, D-AIHW, D-AIHX, D-AIHY, D-AIHZ
FRA (4|5): D-AIHA, D-AIHM, D-AIHO, D-AIHU
A388 --> A38Q (all FRA based)(8F 92C 52E 336M seatmaps) :
FRA (14|14): D-AIMA, D-AIMB, D-AIMC, D-AIMD, D-AIME, D-AIMF, D-AIMG, D-AIMH, D-AIMI, D-AIMJ, D-AIMK, D-AIML, D-AIMM, D-AIMN
B744 -> 74Q (all FRA based)(53C 32E 308M maindeck upperdeck) (67C 32E 272M maindeck upperdeck)(13|13):
FRA (13|13): D-ABTK, D-ABTL, D-ABVM, D-ABVO, D-ABVP, D-ABVR, D-ABVS, D-ABVT, D-ABVU, D-ABVW, D-ABVX, D-ABVY, D-ABVZ
B748 (74H, all are based in FRA and have new F and C (these are all line fits)(seatmaps)(19|19):
D-ABYA, D-ABYC, D-ABYD, D-ABYF, D-ABYG , D-ABYH, D-ABYI, D-ABYJ, D-ABYK, D-ABYL, D-ABYM, D-ABYN, D-ABYO, D-ABYP, D-ABYQ, D-ABYR, D-ABYS, D-ABYT (retro jet), D-ABYU
- All aircraft in operation are retrofitted
How to check if your aircraft has new C seats (up to 8 weeks in advance):
http://www.lufthansa.com/de/en/Business-Class-Product
A333 --> A33Q (retrofit), A33P(linefit) (seatmaps) (19|19):
MUC (8|8): D-AIKE, D-AIKF, D-AIKH, D-AIKM, D-AIKN, D-AIKP, D-AIKQ, D-AIKR
FRA (11|11): D-AIKA, D-AIKB, D-AIKC, D-AIKD, D-AIKG, D-AIKI, D-AIKJ, D-AIKK, D-AIKL, D-AIKO, D-AIKS
A343 --> A34Y (42C 225Y seatmaps)(18|18):
FRA (16|16): D-AIFA, D-AIFC, D-AIFE, D-AIFF, D-AIGL, D-AIGM, D-AIGN, D-AIGO, D-AIGS, D-AIGU, D-AIGV, D-AIGW, D-AIGY, D-AIGX, D-AIGZ, D-AIGP (JUMP)
DUS (2|2): D-AIFD, D-AIGT
A340-600 --> A34R (8F 56C 28E 189Y seatmaps)(22|24):
MUC (19|19): D-AIHB, D-AIHC, D-AIHD, D-AIHE, D-AIHF, D-AIHH, D-AIHI, D-AIHK, D-AIHL, D-AIHN, D-AIHQ, D-AIHR, D-AIHS, D-AIHT, D-AIHV, D-AIHW, D-AIHX, D-AIHY, D-AIHZ
FRA (4|5): D-AIHA, D-AIHM, D-AIHO, D-AIHU
A388 --> A38Q (all FRA based)(8F 92C 52E 336M seatmaps) :
FRA (14|14): D-AIMA, D-AIMB, D-AIMC, D-AIMD, D-AIME, D-AIMF, D-AIMG, D-AIMH, D-AIMI, D-AIMJ, D-AIMK, D-AIML, D-AIMM, D-AIMN
B744 -> 74Q (all FRA based)(53C 32E 308M maindeck upperdeck) (67C 32E 272M maindeck upperdeck)(13|13):
FRA (13|13): D-ABTK, D-ABTL, D-ABVM, D-ABVO, D-ABVP, D-ABVR, D-ABVS, D-ABVT, D-ABVU, D-ABVW, D-ABVX, D-ABVY, D-ABVZ
B748 (74H, all are based in FRA and have new F and C (these are all line fits)(seatmaps)(19|19):
D-ABYA, D-ABYC, D-ABYD, D-ABYF, D-ABYG , D-ABYH, D-ABYI, D-ABYJ, D-ABYK, D-ABYL, D-ABYM, D-ABYN, D-ABYO, D-ABYP, D-ABYQ, D-ABYR, D-ABYS, D-ABYT (retro jet), D-ABYU
New Business class Line- or Retrofit / routes etc.
Jun 16, 2015, 1:16 pm
#1606
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Since they are not selling PE seats at present all the PE seats are blocked.
Jun 18, 2015, 12:25 am
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I can fly the A380-800 or this, both leaving from frankfurt to LAX the same day. They leave hours apart.
I assume I want the 747 to guarantee the new biz product as shown below?
Detailed flight information
Flight LH450
Departs 14:05 on Sat 19 Sep
Frankfurt, Frankfurt International, Terminal 1
Arrives 16:35 on Sat 19 Sep
Los Angeles, Los Angeles International, Terminal b
Duration 11h30
Airline Lufthansa
Aircraft Boeing 747-8I
I assume I want the 747 to guarantee the new biz product as shown below?
Detailed flight information
Flight LH450
Departs 14:05 on Sat 19 Sep
Frankfurt, Frankfurt International, Terminal 1
Arrives 16:35 on Sat 19 Sep
Los Angeles, Los Angeles International, Terminal b
Duration 11h30
Airline Lufthansa
Aircraft Boeing 747-8I
Jun 18, 2015, 1:14 am
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As you can see in the wiki on top of the page, all of LH B748's and A388's have new C. Go for an aircraft / departure time you prefer.
Jun 24, 2015, 11:35 am
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Next 346 (D-AIHH) is done and back @ MUC.
I would guess that we see new C cabin out of FRA on 346s also quite soon.
I would guess that we see new C cabin out of FRA on 346s also quite soon.
Jun 24, 2015, 12:05 pm
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Does anyone about the new business class seats det/fra/dxb and return in december? Thanks
Jun 24, 2015, 9:08 pm
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If you give us the exact flight dates, some of us may be able to check which aircraft is scheduled to operate on that day.
But in general, you have a pretty decent chance that the new Business Class will be available as 16 out of 18 aircraft plying this route have the new Business Class installed already.
Closer to departure date, you can check if the new Business Class is available on your flight by inputting your flight details in the below link:
http://www.lufthansa.com/hk/en/Business-Class-Product
But in general, you have a pretty decent chance that the new Business Class will be available as 16 out of 18 aircraft plying this route have the new Business Class installed already.
Closer to departure date, you can check if the new Business Class is available on your flight by inputting your flight details in the below link:
http://www.lufthansa.com/hk/en/Business-Class-Product
Jun 25, 2015, 8:40 am
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How can I tell if 417 from IAD has old/new product? It shows 22 seats upstairs so I assume that's new, but it looks like old config on the downstairs seatmap?
Jun 25, 2015, 1:56 pm
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If you can see the UD with 22 C seats it is a new C B744 (the B748 UD is larger). These newly converted planes have (unbelievable!) a few rows of 2-3-2 in the second main deck C cabin, hence you think it might be old C.
Jun 26, 2015, 12:14 pm
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dte/fra/dxb
Thanks for your help in advance. Dte-fra on 12/2, Fra -dxb on 12 /3.. Return on 12/10. Chance of getting "new" business class seats?
Jun 27, 2015, 9:28 am
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D-AIGP (343) is now on it's way to Malta in order to get the new cabin. That means from now on all 343 services will have new C.
Jun 27, 2015, 9:41 am
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Since D-AIGP was the last LH aircraft in service with the old F cabin, this means there is no more old First Class seat left on any LH aircraft! ^
Jun 30, 2015, 2:31 pm
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Another 744 is done. D-ABVR will return to FRA as LH741 tomorrow. D-ABVS is next, and is currently on its way to Osaka, will then go to XMN for retrofit.
Jul 14, 2015, 5:16 am
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Are there any particular routes the 2 old A343's from FRA serves? I was looking at FRA-MRU in January, but the seatmap being pulled up on LH website when making the booking suggets it's the old cabin (8 across on row 27).
Jul 14, 2015, 5:31 am
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The two 'old' 343 are currently in retrofit, and will have the new cabin soon. There is no 343 with old C in operation. MRU will be operated by the new 'jump' mainline fleet, and will have a very small business class cabin, so the seatmap may look odd at the first glance.