AXON Hilton Honors Award Questions and Information: The Definitive Thread
#811
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Join Date: Jan 2003
Posts: 8,720
OK, as I had feared, I contacted the Diamond Desk today and asked what the replacement to the AXON cet was going to be and was informed that it was going to be the 5th night free on reward stays.
Now, this was only one individual and he may have gotten it wrong, but he was quite prompt with his response when I asked what was the replacement to the lost AXON cert. This result is what I was worried about, as it is only open to elite members -- something that is conferred to AMEX cardholders when they obtain the credit card as the lower level one does confer Silver status and it is an elite status when compared to the lowly Blue level afforded to all who sign up for the program.
We will have to see if others receive this sort of response and if it reaches a critical mass, but the future does not look bright.
I suggest you test the waters and see what response you receive from Diamond Desk personnel who ought to be better plugged into the fate of the AXON certs.
Now, this was only one individual and he may have gotten it wrong, but he was quite prompt with his response when I asked what was the replacement to the lost AXON cert. This result is what I was worried about, as it is only open to elite members -- something that is conferred to AMEX cardholders when they obtain the credit card as the lower level one does confer Silver status and it is an elite status when compared to the lowly Blue level afforded to all who sign up for the program.
We will have to see if others receive this sort of response and if it reaches a critical mass, but the future does not look bright.
I suggest you test the waters and see what response you receive from Diamond Desk personnel who ought to be better plugged into the fate of the AXON certs.
#812
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Malibu, CA
Programs: AA CK / Marriott Worthless Ambassador
Posts: 1,158
AXON Hilton HHonors Award Questions and Information: The Definitive Thread
So I booked axon for 2014, but I'm flushing my HH points and want to cancel my amx cc. Will this mess up my reservation next year? Even if I have the certificate?
#813
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 190
Well, let's do some math.
One night at top category = 95,000 points = $15,833 spend at 6 points per dollar.
You'd get $316 cash back on that spend at 2%.
I could see some deals that might be worth it... but cash doesn't have restrictions on when it can be used...
One night at top category = 95,000 points = $15,833 spend at 6 points per dollar.
You'd get $316 cash back on that spend at 2%.
I could see some deals that might be worth it... but cash doesn't have restrictions on when it can be used...
Guess I can get a room at pretty much most of the top category Hilton properties at $316/night anyways, plus I earn points. With AXON award going away, this card is now pretty much worthless. I only got the card for 3 months, made 2 AXON reservations, what a waste of credit pull.
#814
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 2,905
Um, you might wanna rethink that logic. Check out prices in Maldives, Bora Bora, the Seychelles, etc and let me know when you're able to grab a room for $316/night.
#815
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Brooklyn
Programs: AMEX Plat, AAdvantage Gold, UA, SPG Gold, HHonors Gold
Posts: 963
Guess I can get a room at pretty much most of the top category Hilton properties at $316/night anyways, plus I earn points. With AXON award going away, this card is now pretty much worthless. I only got the card for 3 months, made 2 AXON reservations, what a waste of credit pull.
Credit pull will dent your score a tiny amount for 3-6 months..
I think you're approach is a little funky.
Though I agree - the card is now dead, unless they turn around with something spectacular.
#816
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Huntsville, AL
Posts: 86
does this sound correct when using the "2 free night certs" from the Hilton Reserve Card along with an AXON4 stay?
Was told by an AXON rep that using the certs would be a "separate" reservation on top of my current axon stay. for example I'm wanting to stay 8 nights total at the Hilton Waikiki. I would have a 4 night AXON stay, a 2 night (higher point) stay and then a 2 night cert stay. They would not give the full 6 nights at the regular AXON point value.
Was told by an AXON rep that using the certs would be a "separate" reservation on top of my current axon stay. for example I'm wanting to stay 8 nights total at the Hilton Waikiki. I would have a 4 night AXON stay, a 2 night (higher point) stay and then a 2 night cert stay. They would not give the full 6 nights at the regular AXON point value.
#817
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Melbourne, Florida, USA
Posts: 2,983
does this sound correct when using the "2 free night certs" from the Hilton Reserve Card along with an AXON4 stay?
Was told by an AXON rep that using the certs would be a "separate" reservation on top of my current axon stay. for example I'm wanting to stay 8 nights total at the Hilton Waikiki. I would have a 4 night AXON stay, a 2 night (higher point) stay and then a 2 night cert stay. They would not give the full 6 nights at the regular AXON point value.
Was told by an AXON rep that using the certs would be a "separate" reservation on top of my current axon stay. for example I'm wanting to stay 8 nights total at the Hilton Waikiki. I would have a 4 night AXON stay, a 2 night (higher point) stay and then a 2 night cert stay. They would not give the full 6 nights at the regular AXON point value.
If you want 6 nights, look into a GLON award, instead of AXON.
#818
Join Date: Feb 2006
Programs: HH diamond
Posts: 2,646
does this sound correct when using the "2 free night certs" from the Hilton Reserve Card along with an AXON4 stay?
Was told by an AXON rep that using the certs would be a "separate" reservation on top of my current axon stay. for example I'm wanting to stay 8 nights total at the Hilton Waikiki. I would have a 4 night AXON stay, a 2 night (higher point) stay and then a 2 night cert stay. They would not give the full 6 nights at the regular AXON point value.
Was told by an AXON rep that using the certs would be a "separate" reservation on top of my current axon stay. for example I'm wanting to stay 8 nights total at the Hilton Waikiki. I would have a 4 night AXON stay, a 2 night (higher point) stay and then a 2 night cert stay. They would not give the full 6 nights at the regular AXON point value.
As Michael_V suggested, get a GLON 6-night award instead.
#819
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Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: MCI
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Not that I would actually have dropped $6,500 at the Doubletree, but *any* reputable/clean brand in Manhattan gets $350-400/nt. all in for those four nights. Including HIX, Fairfield, etc.
#820
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Brooklyn
Programs: AMEX Plat, AAdvantage Gold, UA, SPG Gold, HHonors Gold
Posts: 963
I'm currently trying to burn up my dear wifeys Hilton Honors.
She has VA and HH and is just under the threshold for a 6 night GLON so I am sending her over 6K MR from my Amex to her VA account ( you get 2 HH for 1 VA which is better than the 1.5 HH straight MR transfer)
If you want to do this there are a few considerations, the main one being that your SO has to be on your card, so you might want to call them up and add them to that now if you are in the same position as me.
More on it on my post of the day.
Cheers,
Matt
She has VA and HH and is just under the threshold for a 6 night GLON so I am sending her over 6K MR from my Amex to her VA account ( you get 2 HH for 1 VA which is better than the 1.5 HH straight MR transfer)
If you want to do this there are a few considerations, the main one being that your SO has to be on your card, so you might want to call them up and add them to that now if you are in the same position as me.
More on it on my post of the day.
Cheers,
Matt
#821
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: PHX
Posts: 4,787
Does anybody know if there is a special AXON rate for 5 nights? Right now I have reserved an AXON at the HHV and then a one night C601 right after that. So I'm spending 165K points for the 5 nights.
Also, since I don't really want to check out after 4 nights and then check back in, should I tell them about my C601 reservation right away when I check in for the AXON? Or should I hold off until the night before the AXON stay ends?
Thanks.
Also, since I don't really want to check out after 4 nights and then check back in, should I tell them about my C601 reservation right away when I check in for the AXON? Or should I hold off until the night before the AXON stay ends?
Thanks.
#822
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: DTW
Programs: UA, SW, AA
Posts: 93
Just tried to book 4 nights during new years even at DT NY and was told this property will no longer accept axxon certs
#823
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Can individual properties - standard Doubletrees no less - opt out of the AXON program? Did this hotel opt out in the past day or so? I'd at least try the FT equivalent of a reboot: call again, and see if another agent will book it for you.
I guess worst case you're booking the 170k award (or whatever it is). Still a great place to play HH points if you want to do NYE in Times Square. ^
#824
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: DTW
Programs: UA, SW, AA
Posts: 93
Strange. I booked two AXON's there two days ago. Checking the DT Times Square, it seems like they actually have standard rooms available for Dec 28-Jan 1 and show the regular award in search results, so you *should* be able to use AXON.
Can individual properties - standard Doubletrees no less - opt out of the AXON program? Did this hotel opt out in the past day or so? I'd at least try the FT equivalent of a reboot: call again, and see if another agent will book it for you.
I guess worst case you're booking the 170k award (or whatever it is). Still a great place to play HH points if you want to do NYE in Times Square. ^
Can individual properties - standard Doubletrees no less - opt out of the AXON program? Did this hotel opt out in the past day or so? I'd at least try the FT equivalent of a reboot: call again, and see if another agent will book it for you.
I guess worst case you're booking the 170k award (or whatever it is). Still a great place to play HH points if you want to do NYE in Times Square. ^
Its strange how different CSR's give different info.