M vs B fare
Jun 26, 2016, 11:15 pm
#1
Original Poster
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: DUS
Programs: DL, HHonors, Bonvoy, Hyatt
Posts: 2,072
M vs B fare
I am looking at purchasing a M outbound, B inbound TATL ticket because both allow for upgrades for only 25k miles each. I don't need the flexibility afforded by a B on the outbound, so I was trying to lower the costs a bit (at the sacrifice of MQM).
I know that you should be limited by the more restrictive of the two. Is this the case even after I fly the outbound? I'd rather avoid a YMMV/HUACA situation should I wish to change the return.
I know that you should be limited by the more restrictive of the two. Is this the case even after I fly the outbound? I'd rather avoid a YMMV/HUACA situation should I wish to change the return.
Jun 27, 2016, 12:28 am
#2
Join Date: Mar 2010
Programs: DL PM, Bonvoy Gold
Posts: 8,414
I am looking at purchasing a M outbound, B inbound TATL ticket because both allow for upgrades for only 25k miles each. I don't need the flexibility afforded by a B on the outbound, so I was trying to lower the costs a bit (at the sacrifice of MQM).
I know that you should be limited by the more restrictive of the two. Is this the case even after I fly the outbound? I'd rather avoid a YMMV/HUACA situation should I wish to change the return.
I know that you should be limited by the more restrictive of the two. Is this the case even after I fly the outbound? I'd rather avoid a YMMV/HUACA situation should I wish to change the return.
Jun 27, 2016, 1:18 am
#3
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 1,151
I thought that each leg had its own fare rules. So if you have M outbound and B return, and you call to change only the return, it's governed by the B rules. The most restrictive rule applies to single legs of the trip (e.g. same-day A>B>C with a fare mixture).
Jun 27, 2016, 1:46 am
#4
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: San Antonio
Programs: DL DM, Former AA EXP now AY Plat, AC 75K, NW Plat, Former CO Gold, Hilton Diamond, Marriott Titanium
Posts: 27,042
When you purchase a RT ticket the most restrictive rules govern. It doesn't matter that you've flown the outbound or not. If one says change fee is $500 and the other says you can make free changes, you still have to pay $500 to make a change.
This has been the practice with RT/Multi-fare tickets for at least the past 20 years I that have regularly flown.
This has been the practice with RT/Multi-fare tickets for at least the past 20 years I that have regularly flown.
Jun 27, 2016, 7:38 am
#5
A FlyerTalk Posting Legend
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Minneapolis: DL DM charter 2.3MM
Programs: A3*Gold, SPG Plat, HyattDiamond, MarriottPP, LHW exAccess, ICI, Raffles Amb, NW PE MM, TWA Gold MM
Posts: 100,413
There are normally advantages to changing the return after the outbound has been flown but this isn't one of them.
Jun 27, 2016, 9:21 am
#7
A FlyerTalk Posting Legend
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Minneapolis: DL DM charter 2.3MM
Programs: A3*Gold, SPG Plat, HyattDiamond, MarriottPP, LHW exAccess, ICI, Raffles Amb, NW PE MM, TWA Gold MM
Posts: 100,413
However, only certain fares are combinable in markets with RT pricing.
Jun 28, 2016, 8:23 am
#9
Original Poster
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: DUS
Programs: DL, HHonors, Bonvoy, Hyatt
Posts: 2,072
I confirmed only 30k each way for YBM.
I've used a GUC before on a fare with a stopover and it covered all legs. The agent was telling me that with miles I would have to pay "per day." Not sure if that's correct or not.
I've used a GUC before on a fare with a stopover and it covered all legs. The agent was telling me that with miles I would have to pay "per day." Not sure if that's correct or not.
Jun 28, 2016, 8:44 am
#10
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jun 2001
Programs: DL 1 million, AA 1 mil, HH lapsed Diamond, Marriott Plat
Posts: 28,190
Any stopovers are governed by the fare rule, and additional mileage will be required for broken fares.
Jun 28, 2016, 9:06 am
#11
Original Poster
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: DUS
Programs: DL, HHonors, Bonvoy, Hyatt
Posts: 2,072
Jun 28, 2016, 9:09 am
#12
A FlyerTalk Posting Legend
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Minneapolis: DL DM charter 2.3MM
Programs: A3*Gold, SPG Plat, HyattDiamond, MarriottPP, LHW exAccess, ICI, Raffles Amb, NW PE MM, TWA Gold MM
Posts: 100,413
Jun 28, 2016, 10:04 am
#14
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: BOS
Programs: DL DM 2MM, Marriott LT Titanium, Hertz PC, Avis PC
Posts: 15,198
Aren't sure on the future of things with the one cabin upgrade thing, but it certainly would be crappy. Currently that Y->W only applies for AF tickets to go from their economy cabin to premium economy. I am concerned about what DL will do with upgrades in the future once they introduce a real premium econ product for international however.
Anyway about your current upgrade, if the fare rule does allow a stopover then you should not need an additional mileage award for the upgrade. There could be another limit on the amount of time for a stopover allowed for use of mileage/GUC as well.
Anyway about your current upgrade, if the fare rule does allow a stopover then you should not need an additional mileage award for the upgrade. There could be another limit on the amount of time for a stopover allowed for use of mileage/GUC as well.
Jun 28, 2016, 10:08 am
#15
Original Poster
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: DUS
Programs: DL, HHonors, Bonvoy, Hyatt
Posts: 2,072
