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Old Feb 26, 14, 8:58 am   #1
 
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How are you impacted by the 2015 change?

2013

From 150,000 MQMS
Earned 397,000 miles including Diamond, Class of service bonuses
Would under new system have earned (without Amex) 627,000
A 58% increase

2014


Flights booked and flown 67,000 MQM's
So far will earn 119,000 miles
Under new system have earned 257,000
A 115% increase

Not bad
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Old Feb 26, 14, 9:08 am   #2
 
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-29% on 2013 (a few cheap transcon tickets really hurt me here)
+30% on miles earned so far in 2014. I think I'll come out ok with the changes. I'm flying more for status/MQMs than for redeemable miles, anyway.
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Old Feb 26, 14, 9:14 am   #3
 
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I don't have specific numbers, but I earn a vast majority of my miles through AMEX. I am also a low ticket cost flyer, so this is certainly going to affect my earning based on revenue.

Time will only tell how the new redemptions are. If it's easier to redeem (at levels like UA has), then this could be an overall plus for me.
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Old Feb 26, 14, 9:21 am   #4
 
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It hurts me a lot as I do a good number of NYC-SFO on Y.

On a $350 ticket - i currently get 10,334 while in the new system, I will get 2,800.
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Old Feb 26, 14, 9:31 am   #5
 
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It hurts me a lot as I do a good number of NYC-SFO on Y.

On a $350 ticket - i currently get 10,334 while in the new system, I will get 2,800.
About the same here. Sky Pesos? Nah, Sky Rubles!
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Old Feb 26, 14, 9:36 am   #6
 
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From my travel so far this year I've earned 23,500 miles on a combination of Y,B,M, and L fares. Under the 2015 rules I would have earned 11,500 miles. That's just under half as many miles. A huge decrease for me as a domestic flier who buys mid priced tickets.
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Old Feb 26, 14, 9:40 am   #7
 
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This "per dollar spent" is not clear to me. Is that the same as MQD? Does not sound that way. If so, I will be getting a lot more under new system. Still more even is those are MQD.
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Old Feb 26, 14, 9:42 am   #8
 
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Affect me? I'll be gone.....
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Old Feb 26, 14, 9:43 am   #9
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From my travel so far this year I've earned 23,500 miles on a combination of Y,B,M, and S fares. Under the 2015 rules I would have earned 11,500 miles. That's just under half as many miles. A huge decrease for me as a domestic flier who buys mid priced tickets.
How many trips is that? If you got 4 to 5 Y,B,M,S fares for only $1300, those are extremely cheap prices for those fare classes.
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Old Feb 26, 14, 9:44 am   #10
 
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OK. Should have read the gray small print.

†Ticket price used to calculate miles earned includes base fare and carrier-imposed surcharges, and excludes government-imposed taxes and fees. Tickets purchased in a foreign currency will be converted to USD at time of ticketing based on the IATA 5-day rate.

So, it will be a lot more RDM for me under the new system.
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Old Feb 26, 14, 9:45 am   #11
 
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How many trips is that? If you got 4 to 5 Y,B,M,S fares for only $1300, those are extremely cheap prices for those fare classes.
2 trips from the midwest to the west coast. One was around 900, the other around 700. I just multiplied my MQDs by 8 for the mileage under the new program since I assume they'll be using MQDs and not full ticket price I'm at just over $1,400 MQDs. Multiple fare classes because the trip out is usually on a high fare class but the trip back is on a cheaper fare class.

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Old Feb 26, 14, 9:46 am   #12
 
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this will be a massive upgrade for me as a plat medallion

My spend so far this year is $7632 with about 15916 mqms which would translate to 68688 miles. I have gotten considerably less than that in the old regime so far. I will likely make diamond this year so it will be an even larger upgrade then.
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Old Feb 26, 14, 9:57 am   #13
 
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I am on the phone with AA right now, and I already contacted BA.

Probably will not be a DL diamond after next year. I guess this is what they wanted?
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Old Feb 26, 14, 9:59 am   #14
 
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It will hurt me. I fly Fra - Dtw and Fra - Lim and unless I buy full fare economy or Business class I will earn half of what I earn now. On the other hand if I pony up for those expensive fares I stand to earn a considerable amount of Skymiles. The thing is I like flying Delta. I like the product and I know what I am going to get. Comfortable and reliable flying experience. So I anticipate that I'll stay with Delta if for no other reason the other large American carriers will do the same in the future so makes no sense to jump ship IMO.
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Old Feb 26, 14, 10:16 am   #15
 
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Just running my normal trip/airfare through the calculator, I'll lose 1300 miles every trip on DL

RDU-ANC
$1300

2014 - 15660
2015 - 14300

If I buy a cheaper ticket ($800) the loss is HUGE

2014 - 15660
2015 - 8800
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