May 14, 2014, 1:15 pm
Last edit by: rrgg
This thread is a continuation of the discussion posted here from 12.08.2012 - 5.13.2014: Barclays Arrival/Arrival Cards (1.05%/2.1% travel credits)
Current offer for Arrival Plus is 70K pts w/$5K spend & AF waived 1st year.
Barclays says that you earn “miles” but you’re actually earning cash back with the card since you can’t transfer your Barclays miles to airlines. But you can redeem them for statement credits at 0.5 cents per mile (poor value) or 1.05 cent per mile if you redeem for travel.
You get 5% of your miles back if you redeem for travel, so 40,000 miles gets you $400 towards travel and 2,000 miles back (5% of your miles back). You must have at least 10K 'miles' in your acct if you wish to redeem as a travel credit. 2500 'miles' can be redeemed for a stmt credit though.
If you want, you can redeem miles to cover a portion of a travel charge instead of the full amount. For example, if you have 80k miles and a $740 airline charge, you can choose to redeem just 70k to cover $700 of the charge.
You earn 2X miles on all purchases, so you’re effectively getting 2% cash back for each purchase. But since you get 5% of your miles back when you redeem for travel, this is effectively a 2.1% cash back card when miles are redeemed for travel.
This makes the Barclaycard Arrival PlusTM World Elite MasterCard® (with 2.1% cash back for travel) better than the Capital One Venture card which offers only 2 miles per $1 or 2% cash back, only if you spend $30k+ per year after first year, because Arrival Plus AF is $30 more than Venture.
If you receive a call from 302-255-8000 after applying for this or any other Barclay's card, it is a legit number! You can also call them back directly at 866-951-1437.
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Let's crowd source things that have counted towards travel redemptions that are not so obvious
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Don't forget travel purchase needs to be > $100 charge for 10K mile redemption
Airlines that post purchases of multiple tickets as one amount or split them:
One Amount
BA (USD based award ticket)
Multiple Transactions
UA (award)
DL (award)
Current offer for Arrival Plus is 70K pts w/$5K spend & AF waived 1st year.
Barclays says that you earn “miles” but you’re actually earning cash back with the card since you can’t transfer your Barclays miles to airlines. But you can redeem them for statement credits at 0.5 cents per mile (poor value) or 1.05 cent per mile if you redeem for travel.
You get 5% of your miles back if you redeem for travel, so 40,000 miles gets you $400 towards travel and 2,000 miles back (5% of your miles back). You must have at least 10K 'miles' in your acct if you wish to redeem as a travel credit. 2500 'miles' can be redeemed for a stmt credit though.
If you want, you can redeem miles to cover a portion of a travel charge instead of the full amount. For example, if you have 80k miles and a $740 airline charge, you can choose to redeem just 70k to cover $700 of the charge.
You earn 2X miles on all purchases, so you’re effectively getting 2% cash back for each purchase. But since you get 5% of your miles back when you redeem for travel, this is effectively a 2.1% cash back card when miles are redeemed for travel.
This makes the Barclaycard Arrival PlusTM World Elite MasterCard® (with 2.1% cash back for travel) better than the Capital One Venture card which offers only 2 miles per $1 or 2% cash back, only if you spend $30k+ per year after first year, because Arrival Plus AF is $30 more than Venture.
If you receive a call from 302-255-8000 after applying for this or any other Barclay's card, it is a legit number! You can also call them back directly at 866-951-1437.
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Regarding official company representatives
Note that there is an official procedure for company representatives to register themselves with the FlyerTalk Community Director and verify their credentials. When that process is completed, the username will turn green in posts, rather than the standard blue.
Anyone who does not appear in green has not followed this procedure. Those posts should be considered the same as any other user's posts. It is important to remember that the moderation team does not generally monitor the veracity of any posts; it is up to you to judge a poster's content and history yourself.
Let's crowd source things that have counted towards travel redemptions that are not so obvious
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Don't forget travel purchase needs to be > $100 charge for 10K mile redemption
- 9/11 Museum and Memorial - NYC
- Accuracy Limo (via Square, Salt Lake City, UT limo service)
- ACE Adventures (West Virginia White Water Rafting), had to call in to get it processed manually
- agoda.com
- AirAsia Flights (airasia.com)
- airbnb bookings
- airbnb GC purchased on United MPX site
- Alaska Airlines checked baggage fee $25 charge
- Amazing Bike Tours Thailand
- AA Gift Card
- American Airlines telephone booking (including booking fee)
- Amtrak train ticket >$25 (ALB-NYP)
- Amtrak train ticket >$25 (unknown destinations)
- Arrival+ Annual Fee
- Argosy Cruises (SEA, classified as RECREATION)
- Autoeurope.com
- BART (Bay Area Rapid Transit) San Francisco
- Balloons over Bagan
- Bieber bus tickets
- Boston MBTA Charlie Card reload & Commuter Rail passes & tickets
- Burj Khalifa observation decks
- Buying Lifemiles from Avianca
- Capitaine Train Tickets (capitaine.com)
- Carmel Limo (NYC car service)
- carrentals.com
- cheaptickets.com hotel
- Chinese Visa Application Fees (had to call in. Credit showed up in account in 2 business days. See Post 912 and 921 for details)
- City Taxi (Tampa)
- CostcoTravel
- Cotai Waterjet (Hong Kong)
- CT Limo
- Daily Getaways purchase of HHonors points
- DB Bahn Trains Germany (bahn.de)
- Disneyland Hong Kong (Manual redemption required)
- DriveNow - all locations in EU/US
- Dublin Bus Tours Hop on, Hop off (Green)
- Eiffel Tower (manual redemption by phone allowed)
- Empire State Building tickets
- Enterprise rent-a-car, paid at the counter when returning the car (used Chase United Visa initially for primary coverage, but asked to pay with a different card when returning the car)
- Eurostar Train Tickets (eurostar.com)
- Europcar.com
- Expedia.com
- Hertz Rent-a-Car (booked on hertz.com)
- Hong Kong Airport Express Pass
- Hotel bookings through Rocketmiles (even refundable bookings or those tied to other promotions)
- Hotels.com
- Hotwire
- ItaliaRail (online booking agency for TrenItalia)
- LA Swamp Tours, Steamboat cruise, Haunted History Tours (New Orleans)
- Lahaina-Maui Ferry Tickets - booked online at www.go-lanai.com
- Las Vegas Show Booked through hotel
Las Vegas show tickets booked online (Mandalay Bay Box office) - Limo Charges - Two limo charges that I made in March PRIOR the the recent changes to what qualifies as "Travel" showed up as eligible travel charges. I guess with the changes to what's covered, and for how long, these got pulled back in.
- Lyft
- M-Life advance reservation deposit
- Montway Auto Transport (deposit)
- New York City MTA Subway Cards
- New York Waterways Ferry (between NJ and NYC)
- Ngong Ping 360 (Hong Kong)
- Norwegian Cruise Line purchase made from telephone order from vacationstogo.com
- Norwegian Cruise Line (deposits and payments)
- NS Hispeed Train Tickets (nshispeed.com)
- NYC Taxi
- Orbitz.com purchase
- ORCA card for Seattle area tolls (considered the very typical GOVERNMENT SERVICES NOT ELSEWHERE CLASSIFIED)
- Paris RATP Metro/VATP (buy 10-ticket pack for >$25 and save cost)
- PeruRail (Machu Picchu train)
- PMRF Beach Cottages (Kauai)
- Priceline
- Primetime Shuttle (Worked from LAX-SNA)
- rail europe on Travelocity
- rail JR Rail in Japan, load as tourist attraction, call in to get it credit (Post#938)
- Safari Helicopter Tour (Kauai)
- Sandals.com resort booking (unique vacations) was not redeemable last year. Is redeemable online now
- SEASTREAK LLC - NYC (Commuter Ferri)
- Singapore Cable Car
- Southwest $100 gift card
- Southwest Early Bird Check-in (billed separately from airfare charges)
- Spirit of NY Dinner Cruises - www.spiritcruises.com, which have cruises in several other cities as well.
- Starwood Vacation Ownership (SPG Timeshare) Westin Princeville Kauai (coded as Timeshare).
- St Pauls Cathedral (manual redemption by phone allowed)
- Super Shuttle (mixed, worked in SF when (billed SUPERSHUTTLE EXECUCARS), worked in Boston (SUPERSHUTTLE BOSTON), failed in LA (SUPERSHUTTLE), Worked in Cancun.
- Taxi in Zürich
- Top of the Rock tickets - NYC
- Trenitalia Online
- Trimet (Portland OR public transportation)
- Trip Advisor Rental
- TurboJET (Hong Kong)
- Uber
- Uber GC through MPX $100 (re-confirmed 11/1/2018, using Arrival Premier)
- United Baggage Fee
- Universal Studio Orlando tickets (had to call in)
- Viator (sightseeing/tours)
- Victoria Clipper (passenger ferry)
- Wedding at the Stratosphere's Chapel in the Clouds (billed as stratosphere)
- Windsor Castle (manual redemption by phone allowed)
- Wine purchases from different wine tasting rooms
- WMATA (Washington DC Metro) - [[COLOR="Red"]reconfirmed 10/5/15]
- Zipcar
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Partial redemptions are possible - however you cannot redeem against that charge again. So if you have a $500 charge and you spend 40K points against it, you cannot redeem 10K points for the remaining $100 of that charge. - www.b-europe.com (SNCB rail)
- Amtrak (possibly due <$25 charge)
- Blue Water Rafting. Merchant category "Recreation Services -- Not elsewhere classified"
- Brazil airline GOL booked online codes as DIRECT MARKETING/DIRECT MARKETERS--NOT ELESWH ..
- Broadmoor Hotel Food and Beverage (Colorado Spring, CO)
- budgetair.co.uk (charged >$200)
- Car2go
- De Palm Tours, Aruba (classified as Recreation. Called Barclay twice.)
- Description: ZERVE *CA WHALES Merchant Category: THEATRICAL PRODUCERS (EXCEPT MOTION PICTURES), TICKET AGENCIES...Tickets to whale watching tour purchased over the phone.
- Evan Evans Sightseeing tours (UK based)- http://www.evanevanstours.co.uk
- Fastrak tag autoload for San Francisco bridge tolls ($25)
- Global Entry
- Gotobus.com Long Distance Buses, ~$100
- Homeaway.com, posts as real estate. Barclays said they'd make a one-time exception but future purchases won't count as travel.
- Hostelbookers.com deposit (maybe the charge which is >$25 will count?)
- Hotels.com Gift Card
- IHG points and cash hotel redemption
- Malaysian Overnight Train KUL-SIN (ktmb.com.my)
- Monterey Aquarium
- Parking at DCA - $136 (7/9/19)
- Parking at HSV ($96 in parking at Huntsville International Airport)
- Parking at IAH (Houston Intercontinental - on airport) -$76 (PARKING LOTS AND GARAGES)
- Parking at LAS
- Parking at LGA $204
- Parking at Port Imperial, Weehawken, NJ
- Parking at SNA (John Wayne Airport)
- San Francisco Clipper Card public transit (autoload from website)
- Skyjump at Stratosphere Hotel LV $150 (01/14) - not charged by hotel.
- Space Needle and Chihuly Garden Tickets
- Starwood points purchase (BUSINESS SERVICES NOT ELSEWHERE CLASSIFIED)
- Taxi Magic /Curb- Taxi service
- Thello train (France-Italy night train, codes as rail-freight)
- Trenitalia (both online and in stations, posts as rail-freight)
- UBER eGift Card (bought through the UBER app) for $100 - Not coded as "travel," so couldn't redeem online and they wouldn't do it over the phone, either.
Airlines that post purchases of multiple tickets as one amount or split them:
One Amount
BA (USD based award ticket)
Multiple Transactions
UA (award)
DL (award)
Barclays Arrival Plus, now 70K w/$5k spend
Oct 1, 2014, 2:34 am
#1186
Join Date: Jun 2006
Programs: UA Premier 1K, Star Alliance Gold, Titanium Elite Marriott, Celebrity Elite, IHG, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 343
Approval time for barclay's card
Applied a few days ago. Checked status today. Approval may take seven to ten days and delivery of card within about thirty days.
Oct 1, 2014, 7:05 am
#1187
Join Date: Oct 2013
Programs: Hyatt Globalist No More..., Hyatt Explorist, Hilton Diamond, SPG Platinum, Marriott Platinum
Posts: 4,375
I had a hotels.com and getaround (car rental) purchase neither of which showed up on the redemption page. I submitted a ticket to have them add it. Is this permanent or need to call in every time? I also had uber charges, but all were less than $25. Hopefully they will show up in the future.
Oct 1, 2014, 10:23 am
#1188
Join Date: Feb 2006
Programs: HH Gold (again), US/UA/DL non-elite, ZE Presidents Circle, WN reluctant no fee convert.
Posts: 1,449
Yes, have done many X the CL...wife had a 2k limit and often put 8K to 10K on it in a month..many times charges would be approved greater than the CL...after 8 or so months, she got another barclays card with a MUCH higher limit and was able to call and have them move the CL around between cards.
Seriously, this is my problem as outlined by previous poster, generating valid spending after the minimum spend bonus has been used up.
What would be the steps to applying for another card? Should first balance be paid in full or at least look profitable to them (Barclays)?
Getting ready to fold up US MC for the year and another Barclays would be a bigtime help!
Oct 1, 2014, 10:34 am
#1189
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Posts: 12,729
Is it better to round up when redeeming?
For instance, I have a $66.20 charge. I could redeem 6700 miles (rounding up) or I could redeem 5000 miles (for $50 credit).
So I would be losing out on 80 miles if I redeemed the higher number of miles.
I assume nobody is rounding up and redeeming more miles to get the full transaction amount credited in such cases?
For instance, I have a $66.20 charge. I could redeem 6700 miles (rounding up) or I could redeem 5000 miles (for $50 credit).
So I would be losing out on 80 miles if I redeemed the higher number of miles.
I assume nobody is rounding up and redeeming more miles to get the full transaction amount credited in such cases?
Oct 1, 2014, 10:38 am
#1190
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Hmm, okay redeemed 45,000 miles against a $598 charge.
So I'm not seeing the $450 credit but assume it will post. However the deduction of the 45000 miles and then the credit back of the 4500 miles was instant.
How long does it take for the credits to post?
So I'm not seeing the $450 credit but assume it will post. However the deduction of the 45000 miles and then the credit back of the 4500 miles was instant.
How long does it take for the credits to post?
Oct 1, 2014, 10:45 am
#1191
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: RDU
Programs: Delta silver, HH silver, IHG platinum, SPG gold, AMEX platinum
Posts: 400
[QUOTE=jan_believes;23609885]For real? No offense...
Were you not aware that most(if not all) banks allow you to pay your balance off before statement close date and then once satisfied, make that paid portion avaliable for additional spend?
You can find plenty of datapoints in the other CC threads in flyertalk (in addition to other forums) and in the Manufactured Spend threads.
Hope this helps as well.
Were you not aware that most(if not all) banks allow you to pay your balance off before statement close date and then once satisfied, make that paid portion avaliable for additional spend?
You can find plenty of datapoints in the other CC threads in flyertalk (in addition to other forums) and in the Manufactured Spend threads.
Hope this helps as well.
Oct 1, 2014, 11:02 am
#1192
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Location: SFO
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Posts: 1,644
Oct 1, 2014, 2:11 pm
#1193
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: BOS/BDL
Programs: MileagePlus Club, Amex Platinum, AAdvantage, SkyMiles
Posts: 232
I don't have time to wade through 30 pages of responses to see if my situation was already discussed. If this is considered drivel, please ignore or delete if you have the power.
Last year when in Switzerland we had a few instances where my swipe/signature card gave me trouble. Always eventually got it to go through, but thought I should attempt to forestall issues this year by getting a CHIP + PIN card, so I got the Arrival +.
I had read somewhere that you need to first use the card at an attended station to activate the PIN, and then it could be used in unattended kiosks. I used it at the rental car counter upon arrival in ZRH. No PIN was asked for. Over three weeks, every single transaction was processed as CHIP & Signature.
Strangely enough, I did a couple transactions with my stripe only Chase MileagePlus card at gas station kiosks and it asked for my PIN, and worked fine...
Last year when in Switzerland we had a few instances where my swipe/signature card gave me trouble. Always eventually got it to go through, but thought I should attempt to forestall issues this year by getting a CHIP + PIN card, so I got the Arrival +.
I had read somewhere that you need to first use the card at an attended station to activate the PIN, and then it could be used in unattended kiosks. I used it at the rental car counter upon arrival in ZRH. No PIN was asked for. Over three weeks, every single transaction was processed as CHIP & Signature.
Strangely enough, I did a couple transactions with my stripe only Chase MileagePlus card at gas station kiosks and it asked for my PIN, and worked fine...
Oct 1, 2014, 3:10 pm
#1194
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 4,166
I don't have time to wade through 30 pages of responses to see if my situation was already discussed. If this is considered drivel, please ignore or delete if you have the power.
Last year when in Switzerland we had a few instances where my swipe/signature card gave me trouble. Always eventually got it to go through, but thought I should attempt to forestall issues this year by getting a CHIP + PIN card, so I got the Arrival +.
I had read somewhere that you need to first use the card at an attended station to activate the PIN, and then it could be used in unattended kiosks. I used it at the rental car counter upon arrival in ZRH. No PIN was asked for. Over three weeks, every single transaction was processed as CHIP & Signature.
Strangely enough, I did a couple transactions with my stripe only Chase MileagePlus card at gas station kiosks and it asked for my PIN, and worked fine...
Last year when in Switzerland we had a few instances where my swipe/signature card gave me trouble. Always eventually got it to go through, but thought I should attempt to forestall issues this year by getting a CHIP + PIN card, so I got the Arrival +.
I had read somewhere that you need to first use the card at an attended station to activate the PIN, and then it could be used in unattended kiosks. I used it at the rental car counter upon arrival in ZRH. No PIN was asked for. Over three weeks, every single transaction was processed as CHIP & Signature.
Strangely enough, I did a couple transactions with my stripe only Chase MileagePlus card at gas station kiosks and it asked for my PIN, and worked fine...
Oct 1, 2014, 4:25 pm
#1195
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: OC/LAX
Posts: 376
I had a hotels.com and getaround (car rental) purchase neither of which showed up on the redemption page. I submitted a ticket to have them add it. Is this permanent or need to call in every time? I also had uber charges, but all were less than $25. Hopefully they will show up in the future.
Oct 1, 2014, 5:07 pm
#1196
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Location: Bay Area
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So it looks like meeting the $3k spend to get the 40k miles should allow you to end up with 46k miles, resulting in about $500 credit after most of the miles are redeemed.
Not bad.
Now if you could transfer those miles to FF programs like Chase UR points ...
Not bad.
Now if you could transfer those miles to FF programs like Chase UR points ...
Oct 2, 2014, 7:20 am
#1197
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: BOS/BDL
Programs: MileagePlus Club, Amex Platinum, AAdvantage, SkyMiles
Posts: 232
No, it's not. There is no CHIP. It's a mag stripe only. That's why I found it odd that it was accepted in an unattended kiosk with a PIN...
Oct 2, 2014, 1:27 pm
#1198
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 4,166
In other news, it's been 4 days and still I have not gotten any points from the stories I posted on the Travel Community. I've got 2,500 points owed to me now.
Oct 2, 2014, 8:22 pm
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Oct 2, 2014, 10:08 pm
#1200
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 636
Yeah, that is weird. Overseas plenty of machines didn't even have a magstripe reader at all. The only way to pay was to insert the card into the reader.
In other news, it's been 4 days and still I have not gotten any points from the stories I posted on the Travel Community. I've got 2,500 points owed to me now.
In other news, it's been 4 days and still I have not gotten any points from the stories I posted on the Travel Community. I've got 2,500 points owed to me now.