Congress Wants TSA to Secure Amtrak & Buses
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Isn't part of the security in certain stations already TSA? I'm fairly certain I've seen them in 30th Street station in Philadelphia and Penn Station in NYC. NYC also has security personnel in camo uniforms with serious weapons and regular sweeps with the dog teams - not sure exactly who those two belong to.
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Unlike TSA, I don't think the local PD or the National Guard are authorized to grope me as a pre-condition for boarding a train or a bus.
Not yet, anyway.
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What that demonstrated is that TSA's authority to grope people extends beyond the airport. The head of Amtrak was a bit hot at the time, mostly about forcing the arriving passengers to undergo a completely unnecessary screening, but no one ever questioned their authority to do the searches. No WTMDS, but they were using wands and hands.
If I approach a train station and I see National Guard or local LEs, I am confident that they're not going to be frisking me without cause.
If I approach a train station and see TSA, I do believe that they have the authority to grope and I believe they will use it. As they already have.
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No discernable logo on the dog handler's uniform, so still can't say to which entity he belongs.
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Harassment-free travel today on AMTRAK from Union Station to Albany via Penn Station. Not a clerk in sight and I don't recall even seeing a Port Authority cop at Penn Station.
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I once encountered them getting onto the Hyannis- Nantucket ferry. Some sort of one-day (random) operation which thankfully turned out perfunctory rather than metal detectors, massive bag searches, etc.
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(d)Functions.—The Under Secretary shall be responsible for security in all modes of transportation, including—
(1) carrying out chapter 449, relating to civil aviation security, and related research and development activities; and
(2) security responsibilities over other modes of transportation that are exercised by the Department of Transportation.
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49 USC 44901
(a)In General.—
The Under Secretary of Transportation for Security shall provide for the screening of all passengers and property, including United States mail, cargo, carry-on and checked baggage, and other articles, that will be carried aboard a passenger aircraft operated by an air carrier or foreign air carrier in air transportation or intrastate air transportation. In the case of flights and flight segments originating in the United States, the screening shall take place before boarding and shall be carried out by a Federal Government employee (as defined in section 2105 of title 5, United States Code), except as otherwise provided in section 44919 or 44920 and except for identifying passengers and baggage for screening under the CAPPS and known shipper programs and conducting positive bag-match programs.
(b)Supervision of Screening.—
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(c)Checked Baggage.—
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Warning to TSA: Don't Even Think About "Securing" the MARC Brunswick Line
The title speaks for itself. I can't comment on the behavior of conformist suburbanites from Germantown inward. But, if the TSA ever dares to screen MARC passengers anywhere west, I can pretty much guarantee that there will be casualties.
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The planned trials will take place over two months at Union Station in Washington DC, Denver International Airport, and a station in the LA Metro rail network.
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The Evolv scanners are capable of scanning 800 people an hour,
The speed of Evolv scanners is on par with existing TSA-approved scanners,
The speed of Evolv scanners is on par with existing TSA-approved scanners,
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In theory, MMW can probably scan about 600 people per hour, but that's in theory only. It seems using this new thingamajig people will just walk through and not have to "assume the position" so maybe 800 people per hour is reasonable. Reasonable, that is, until the TSA gets its grubby hands on this technology and stops everyone who has anything in their pockets.
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In theory, MMW can probably scan about 600 people per hour, but that's in theory only. It seems using this new thingamajig people will just walk through and not have to "assume the position" so maybe 800 people per hour is reasonable. Reasonable, that is, until the TSA gets its grubby hands on this technology and stops everyone who has anything in their pockets.
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TSA's current batch of Whole Body Scanners take about 10 seconds a person for each scan. That includes loading and unloadiing and that works out to less than 400 scans per hour. This new company claims to be on par with current TSA scanners and the ability to scan 800 people per hour. On par or 800, both cannot be true.
We always figure the TSA stood a good chnace of killing commercial aviation. But, it looks like they will kill passenger rail instead.