View Poll Results: My opinion of the announced AA - US merger is:
This is the best of all possible worlds; great idea!
33
3.93%
This portends a stronger airline, with some changes for all
192
22.88%
I am neutral - pros and cons for all
199
23.72%
I think this is a somewhat bad idea with some real challenges
226
26.94%
I am completely opposed to this merger; terrible idea!
189
22.53%
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AA - US Merger Agreement / Announcement / DOJ Action Discussion (consolidated)
Aug 13, 2013, 8:46 am
#1441
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Aug 13, 2013, 8:48 am
#1442
Join Date: Aug 2010
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Aug. 13 (Bloomberg) -- American Airlines’ merger with US
Airways Group Inc. should be blocked, the U.S. Justice
Department will say in a lawsuit to be filed today, according to
a person familiar with the matter.
The move will upend American’s plans to exit bankruptcy
through a deal that would create the world’s biggest airline.
The department, in a lawsuit to be filed in federal court
in Washington, will say the proposed tie-up violates U.S.
antitrust law and would lead to less competition in the industry
and higher prices for consumers, according to the person, who
asked not to be identified because the matter is private.
Airways Group Inc. should be blocked, the U.S. Justice
Department will say in a lawsuit to be filed today, according to
a person familiar with the matter.
The move will upend American’s plans to exit bankruptcy
through a deal that would create the world’s biggest airline.
The department, in a lawsuit to be filed in federal court
in Washington, will say the proposed tie-up violates U.S.
antitrust law and would lead to less competition in the industry
and higher prices for consumers, according to the person, who
asked not to be identified because the matter is private.
Aug 13, 2013, 8:51 am
#1444
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Posts: 4,631
I'm surprised I got the push notifications from UK and French media before the US ones.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...n_3748865.html
http://www.washingtonpost.com/busine...3b2_story.html
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...n_3748865.html
WASHINGTON (AP) — Justice Department, states challenge proposed US Airways, American Airlines merger.
Last edited by SDQBound; Aug 13, 2013 at 9:02 am
Aug 13, 2013, 8:52 am
#1445
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: LAX
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Posts: 197
just got a push notification from AP saying DOJ files lawsuit to block the merger
Last edited by pineapplejet; Aug 13, 2013 at 8:53 am Reason: typo
Aug 13, 2013, 8:58 am
#1446
Join Date: Aug 2005
Programs: United 1k ; SW A+ Preferred; Hilton Diamond, Marriott Gold
Posts: 634
DL/NW and UA/CO occurred when airlines financial performance was much worse than now and there were too many seats.
AA/US are both making piles of cash independently. They have a tough economic case to make.
Politics isn't really a major factor - CO/UA final approval came from the current administration.
Aug 13, 2013, 8:59 am
#1447
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Is this lawsuit potentially just a ploy by DoJ to get some more concessions? It seems late in this game to be attempting to stop it now...
Is this lawsuit potentially just a ploy by DoJ to get some more concessions? It seems late in this game to be attempting to stop it now...
Last edited by Microwave; Aug 13, 2013 at 2:10 pm
Aug 13, 2013, 8:59 am
#1448
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Texas
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Posts: 279
Aug 13, 2013, 8:59 am
#1450
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: ELP
Programs: AAdvantage, Amex MR
Posts: 2,314
Wow, I wonder if AA management and the UCC has/had a backup reorganization plan if the merger fell through?
I have mixed feelings, I was initially against the merger, but I opened up a US airways credit card a few weeks ago in anticipation of combining miles and eyeing that F seat on a Qantas A380.
Wow, so the DOJ finally said enough was enough huh?
I have mixed feelings, I was initially against the merger, but I opened up a US airways credit card a few weeks ago in anticipation of combining miles and eyeing that F seat on a Qantas A380.
Wow, so the DOJ finally said enough was enough huh?
Aug 13, 2013, 9:00 am
#1451
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Last edited by Microwave; Aug 13, 2013 at 2:11 pm
Aug 13, 2013, 9:01 am
#1452
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Aug 13, 2013, 9:05 am
#1453
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I mean that the DOJ is finally starting to worry about a reduction in the number of competitive airlines. Also I bet some people in Washington are worried that the new airline will have > 65% of flights at DCA.
Aug 13, 2013, 9:06 am
#1454
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: SF Bay Area
Programs: Marriott Bonvoy Ambassador, AA EXP
Posts: 2,704
Bad timing. Last-mover vs. first mover makes all the difference.
DL/NW and UA/CO occurred when airlines financial performance was much worse than now and there were too many seats.
AA/US are both making piles of cash independently. They have a tough economic case to make.
Politics isn't really a major factor - CO/UA final approval came from the current administration.
DL/NW and UA/CO occurred when airlines financial performance was much worse than now and there were too many seats.
AA/US are both making piles of cash independently. They have a tough economic case to make.
Politics isn't really a major factor - CO/UA final approval came from the current administration.
But this is good news. The US has been doing a good job enforcing laws like the Sherman Act. I hope this merger does not happen.
Aug 13, 2013, 9:06 am
#1455
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 7,905
Is this lawsuit potentially just a ploy by DoJ to get some more concessions? It seems late in this game to be attempting to stop it now...[/QUOTE]I had the same thought. Why now?
Last edited by Microwave; Aug 13, 2013 at 2:11 pm Reason: Edited quote of redacted post