Aug 7, 2015, 8:58 am
Cathay Pacific Award Availability
when using Alaska Airlines Miles
North American CX Gateway Cities
New York City (JFK/EWR)
Boston (BOS)
Toronto (YYZ)
Chicago (ORD)
Vancouver (YVR)
Los Angeles (LAX)
San Francisco (SFO)
Notes and tips:
You cannot book CX award flights on alaskaair.com.
http://www.alaskaair.com/content/mil...rs/cathay.aspx
Both BA and JL websites can be used to search for CX partner inventory. JL is typically a more accurate engine. BA should only be used on a per-segment basis (in other words, do not search for LAX-BKK, search for LAX-HKG, then HKG-BKK). Note that AS award availability is only for 330 days, the BA engine will show availability to 365 days.
There are mixed reports on getting a CX stopover outside of HKG. By rule, HKG is the only allowed stopover. Stopovers are not allowed on intra-Asia award bookings (you will need a North American segment to be able to book a stopover).
All CX awards except for the intra-Asia award must either originate or end in HKG or North America. If you wish to fly Middle East/India/Europe/Asia/Australia to a CX destination beyond your initial flight to or from HKG that is not a North American destination, it will be two awards: XXX-HKG and HKG-YYY. CX intra-Asia awards do not include a stopover.
CX releases availability close in. If you do a change where you book another cabin and upgrade to F (which often may be the only way to get F on CX), you will be charged the $125 rebooking fee (waived for MVPG+).
*Have the AS CSR perform the search one leg at a time (Transoceanic first). That might yield more results than the whole itinerary at once.*
The CX forum has a FAQ on the CX experience.
Award eligible Destinations
By region.
(Dragon Air is not allowed on AS award)
Africa
Johannesburg (JNB)
Asia
Bangkok (BKK)
Beijing (PEK)
Cebu (CEB)
Denpasar (Bali) (DPS)
Fukuoka (FUK)
Ho Chi Minh City (SGN)
Hong Kong (HKG)
Jakarta (CGK)
Kuala Lumpur (KUL) [Ends 30 April]
Manila (MNL)
Osaka (KIX)
Sapporo (CTS)
Seoul (ICN)
Shanghai (PVG)
Singapore (SIN)
Surabaya (SUB)
Taipei (TPE)
Tokyo (HND)
Australia/NZ
Adelaide (ADL)
Auckland (AKL)
Brisbane (BNE)
Cairns (CNS)
Melbourne (MEL)
Perth (PER)
Sydney (SYD)
India/Middle East
Bahrain (BAH)
Chennai (MAA)
Colombo (CMB)
Delhi (DEL)
Doha (DOH) [Discontinued as of Feb 2016]
Dubai (DXB)
Hyderabad (HYD)
Malé (MLE)
Mumbai (BOM)
Riyadh (RUH)
Tel Aviv (TLV)
Europe (To/from HKG only. NA is separate award)
Amsterdam (AMS)
Barcelona (BCN)
Düsseldorf (DUS)
Frankfurt (FRA)
London (LHR, LGW)
Manchester (MAN)
Milan (MXP)
Paris (CDG)
Rome (FCO)
Zurich (ZRH)
when using Alaska Airlines Miles
North American CX Gateway Cities
New York City (JFK/EWR)
Boston (BOS)
Toronto (YYZ)
Chicago (ORD)
Vancouver (YVR)
Los Angeles (LAX)
San Francisco (SFO)
Notes and tips:
You cannot book CX award flights on alaskaair.com.
http://www.alaskaair.com/content/mil...rs/cathay.aspx
Award Travel on Cathay Pacific
Book Your Award Travel: To use Alaska Airlines Mileage Plan™ Miles on Cathay Pacific, call Alaska Airlines Reservations at 1-800-252-7522 (TTY: Dial 711 for Relay Services) 5:00 a.m. - Midnight (PT), daily
Book Your Award Travel: To use Alaska Airlines Mileage Plan™ Miles on Cathay Pacific, call Alaska Airlines Reservations at 1-800-252-7522 (TTY: Dial 711 for Relay Services) 5:00 a.m. - Midnight (PT), daily
There are mixed reports on getting a CX stopover outside of HKG. By rule, HKG is the only allowed stopover. Stopovers are not allowed on intra-Asia award bookings (you will need a North American segment to be able to book a stopover).
All CX awards except for the intra-Asia award must either originate or end in HKG or North America. If you wish to fly Middle East/India/Europe/Asia/Australia to a CX destination beyond your initial flight to or from HKG that is not a North American destination, it will be two awards: XXX-HKG and HKG-YYY. CX intra-Asia awards do not include a stopover.
CX releases availability close in. If you do a change where you book another cabin and upgrade to F (which often may be the only way to get F on CX), you will be charged the $125 rebooking fee (waived for MVPG+).
*Have the AS CSR perform the search one leg at a time (Transoceanic first). That might yield more results than the whole itinerary at once.*
The CX forum has a FAQ on the CX experience.
Award eligible Destinations
By region.
(Dragon Air is not allowed on AS award)
Africa
Johannesburg (JNB)
Asia
Bangkok (BKK)
Beijing (PEK)
Cebu (CEB)
Denpasar (Bali) (DPS)
Fukuoka (FUK)
Ho Chi Minh City (SGN)
Hong Kong (HKG)
Jakarta (CGK)
Kuala Lumpur (KUL) [Ends 30 April]
Manila (MNL)
Osaka (KIX)
Sapporo (CTS)
Seoul (ICN)
Shanghai (PVG)
Singapore (SIN)
Surabaya (SUB)
Taipei (TPE)
Tokyo (HND)
Australia/NZ
Adelaide (ADL)
Auckland (AKL)
Brisbane (BNE)
Cairns (CNS)
Melbourne (MEL)
Perth (PER)
Sydney (SYD)
India/Middle East
Bahrain (BAH)
Chennai (MAA)
Colombo (CMB)
Delhi (DEL)
Doha (DOH) [Discontinued as of Feb 2016]
Dubai (DXB)
Hyderabad (HYD)
Malé (MLE)
Mumbai (BOM)
Riyadh (RUH)
Tel Aviv (TLV)
Europe (To/from HKG only. NA is separate award)
Amsterdam (AMS)
Barcelona (BCN)
Düsseldorf (DUS)
Frankfurt (FRA)
London (LHR, LGW)
Manchester (MAN)
Milan (MXP)
Paris (CDG)
Rome (FCO)
Zurich (ZRH)
CX (Cathay) Award availability
Sep 15, 2016, 4:01 pm
#1502
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Yes, it's two awards: DXB-HKG and HKG-SIN. AS does not have region-based award charts like other airlines. For CX, your award either starts or ends in North America or HKG. You can see this if you pull up the chart for Middle East-Asia: the CX award will say "Middle East to Hong Kong".
OP is trying to book DXB-HKG-SIN. Only North America awards get the stopover. Read the wiki.
Last edited by eponymous_coward; Sep 15, 2016 at 4:08 pm
Sep 15, 2016, 4:43 pm
#1503
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 147
We really should add "All AS awards on CX either end or start in North America or HKG" to the wiki, because this is a very common thing people miss.
Yes, it's two awards: DXB-HKG and HKG-SIN. AS does not have region-based award charts like other airlines. For CX, your award either starts or ends in North America or HKG. You can see this if you pull up the chart for Middle East-Asia: the CX award will say "Middle East to Hong Kong".
OP is trying to book DXB-HKG-SIN. Only North America awards get the stopover. Read the wiki.
Yes, it's two awards: DXB-HKG and HKG-SIN. AS does not have region-based award charts like other airlines. For CX, your award either starts or ends in North America or HKG. You can see this if you pull up the chart for Middle East-Asia: the CX award will say "Middle East to Hong Kong".
OP is trying to book DXB-HKG-SIN. Only North America awards get the stopover. Read the wiki.
Sep 16, 2016, 2:01 pm
#1504
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Florida
Posts: 29,762
It's not the problem of Wiki. It's the problem of AS website. If you go to the following link. and choose Asia and Asia, it clearly shows Middle East in the picture. That's why I thought ME was included for some quirky reason. But I just confirmed with AS, that it has to be two separate awards and that chart or picture of the map is wrong.
Pick Middle East to Asia.
You MISS the Title of the chart which says Hong Kong without a doubt
The title of CX chart says :
Middle East to Hong Kong
It does not say Asia. Hong Kong does not equal to Asia.
Sep 17, 2016, 5:44 pm
#1505
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Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: BOS/ORH
Programs: AS 75K
Posts: 18,323
It's not the problem of Wiki. It's the problem of AS website. If you go to the following link. and choose Asia and Asia, it clearly shows Middle East in the picture. That's why I thought ME was included for some quirky reason. But I just confirmed with AS, that it has to be two separate awards and that chart or picture of the map is wrong.
Sep 18, 2016, 8:14 am
#1506
Join Date: Aug 2015
Posts: 376
so i just booked a BOM-HKG-ORD and the taxes/fees came out to ~$140..
That seemed a bit higher than expected...
The bom-hkg portion was around 30.
Does the 140 seem higher than expected? I think the agent might have made a mistake but I wanted to check here to make sure first
That seemed a bit higher than expected...
The bom-hkg portion was around 30.
Does the 140 seem higher than expected? I think the agent might have made a mistake but I wanted to check here to make sure first
Sep 19, 2016, 9:25 am
#1507
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so i just booked a BOM-HKG-ORD and the taxes/fees came out to ~$140..
That seemed a bit higher than expected...
The bom-hkg portion was around 30.
Does the 140 seem higher than expected? I think the agent might have made a mistake but I wanted to check here to make sure first
That seemed a bit higher than expected...
The bom-hkg portion was around 30.
Does the 140 seem higher than expected? I think the agent might have made a mistake but I wanted to check here to make sure first
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/catha...acific-27.html
You're always welcome to buy a one way cash ticket on CX if you think you got ripped off...
Sep 19, 2016, 2:06 pm
#1508
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Join Date: May 2003
Location: PDX USA
Programs: AS MVPG, AA, BA, SPG Gold, HHonors Gold, Hyatt Platinum, IHG, Hertz 5*
Posts: 690
so i just booked a BOM-HKG-ORD and the taxes/fees came out to ~$140..
That seemed a bit higher than expected...
The bom-hkg portion was around 30.
Does the 140 seem higher than expected? I think the agent might have made a mistake but I wanted to check here to make sure first
That seemed a bit higher than expected...
The bom-hkg portion was around 30.
Does the 140 seem higher than expected? I think the agent might have made a mistake but I wanted to check here to make sure first
There's a new tax for a third runway at HKG. Also lots of taxes on international flights entering the US. Plus partner fee. That doesn't sound ridiculous.
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/catha...acific-27.html
You're always welcome to buy a one way cash ticket on CX if you think you got ripped off...
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/catha...acific-27.html
You're always welcome to buy a one way cash ticket on CX if you think you got ripped off...
Sep 20, 2016, 11:46 am
#1509
Join Date: Aug 2015
Posts: 376
There's a new tax for a third runway at HKG. Also lots of taxes on international flights entering the US. Plus partner fee. That doesn't sound ridiculous.
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/catha...acific-27.html
You're always welcome to buy a one way cash ticket on CX if you think you got ripped off...
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/catha...acific-27.html
You're always welcome to buy a one way cash ticket on CX if you think you got ripped off...
Lol ain't nobody paying 15,000 for Cathay F
Sep 20, 2016, 12:12 pm
#1510
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The US doesn't charge departure taxes for international flights, but they charge a LOT of entry taxes for inbound international (it's always been about ~$50-70 USD for me). My trip to LHR using AS miles? $5.60 TSA + partner fee. Trip back from ZRH? All kinds of taxes.
Sep 20, 2016, 4:10 pm
#1511
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Florida
Programs: Hyatt Diamond. SPG Plat. Marriott Plat.
Posts: 522
Quick question... if I book a J award with Alaksa Miles am I able to upgrade to F if space opens up?
Sep 20, 2016, 4:24 pm
#1512
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 599
The upgrade change will be free more than 60 days out. It will cost $125 per person within 60 days window afaik.
Sep 20, 2016, 5:08 pm
#1513
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Florida
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Posts: 522
Sep 27, 2016, 5:44 pm
#1514
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: Ambivalent
Programs: *A
Posts: 62
Is there a mistake in the wiki or does Cathay not release space from LHR and only LGW?
Sep 27, 2016, 5:52 pm
#1515
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