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Cathay Pacific Award Availability
when using Alaska Airlines Miles


North American CX Gateway Cities


New York City (JFK/EWR)
Boston (BOS)
Toronto (YYZ)
Chicago (ORD)
Vancouver (YVR)
Los Angeles (LAX)
San Francisco (SFO)


Notes and tips:

You cannot book CX award flights on alaskaair.com.

http://www.alaskaair.com/content/mil...rs/cathay.aspx

Award Travel on Cathay Pacific

Book Your Award Travel: To use Alaska Airlines Mileage Plan™ Miles on Cathay Pacific, call Alaska Airlines Reservations at 1-800-252-7522 (TTY: Dial 711 for Relay Services) 5:00 a.m. - Midnight (PT), daily
Both BA and JL websites can be used to search for CX partner inventory. JL is typically a more accurate engine. BA should only be used on a per-segment basis (in other words, do not search for LAX-BKK, search for LAX-HKG, then HKG-BKK). Note that AS award availability is only for 330 days, the BA engine will show availability to 365 days.

There are mixed reports on getting a CX stopover outside of HKG. By rule, HKG is the only allowed stopover. Stopovers are not allowed on intra-Asia award bookings (you will need a North American segment to be able to book a stopover).

All CX awards except for the intra-Asia award must either originate or end in HKG or North America. If you wish to fly Middle East/India/Europe/Asia/Australia to a CX destination beyond your initial flight to or from HKG that is not a North American destination, it will be two awards: XXX-HKG and HKG-YYY. CX intra-Asia awards do not include a stopover.

CX releases availability close in. If you do a change where you book another cabin and upgrade to F (which often may be the only way to get F on CX), you will be charged the $125 rebooking fee (waived for MVPG+).

*Have the AS CSR perform the search one leg at a time (Transoceanic first). That might yield more results than the whole itinerary at once.*

The CX forum has a FAQ on the CX experience.


Award eligible Destinations
By region.

(Dragon Air is not allowed on AS award)

Africa
Johannesburg (JNB)


Asia
Bangkok (BKK)
Beijing (PEK)
Cebu (CEB)
Denpasar (Bali) (DPS)
Fukuoka (FUK)
Ho Chi Minh City (SGN)
Hong Kong (HKG)
Jakarta (CGK)
Kuala Lumpur (KUL) [Ends 30 April]
Manila (MNL)
Osaka (KIX)
Sapporo (CTS)
Seoul (ICN)
Shanghai (PVG)
Singapore (SIN)
Surabaya (SUB)
Taipei (TPE)
Tokyo (HND)



Australia/NZ
Adelaide (ADL)
Auckland (AKL)
Brisbane (BNE)
Cairns (CNS)
Melbourne (MEL)
Perth (PER)
Sydney (SYD)

India/Middle East

Bahrain (BAH)
Chennai (MAA)
Colombo (CMB)
Delhi (DEL)
Doha (DOH) [Discontinued as of Feb 2016]
Dubai (DXB)
Hyderabad (HYD)
Malé (MLE)
Mumbai (BOM)
Riyadh (RUH)
Tel Aviv (TLV)


Europe (To/from HKG only. NA is separate award)

Amsterdam (AMS)
Barcelona (BCN)
Düsseldorf (DUS)
Frankfurt (FRA)
London (LHR, LGW)
Manchester (MAN)
Milan (MXP)
Paris (CDG)
Rome (FCO)
Zurich (ZRH)
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Old Apr 10, 2015, 4:11 pm
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BA is showing 2 F and 2 J seats available, yet when I phone AS they say no seats in F nor J.

HUACA?
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Old Apr 10, 2015, 4:14 pm
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Originally Posted by jms_uk
BA is showing 2 F and 2 J seats available, yet when I phone AS they say no seats in F nor J.

HUACA?
Are you looking segment by segment or as origin to Destination. If not segment by segment its likely just phantom
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Old Apr 10, 2015, 4:22 pm
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Originally Posted by CDKing
Originally Posted by jms_uk
BA is showing 2 F and 2 J seats available, yet when I phone AS they say no seats in F nor J.

HUACA?
Are you looking segment by segment or as origin to Destination. If not segment by segment its likely just phantom
BA is showing some phantom space these days check with the JAL site
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Old Apr 10, 2015, 4:26 pm
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Originally Posted by CDKing
Are you looking segment by segment or as origin to Destination. If not segment by segment its likely just phantom
It is just a single segment HKG-LHR

Originally Posted by alexisonsmith
BA is showing some phantom space these days check with the JAL site
Thanks, will try.
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Old Apr 12, 2015, 4:14 am
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Originally Posted by alexisonsmith
BA is showing some phantom space these days check with the JAL site
Using awardnexus, BA and QF show availability, whereas JL has none

I'll book overnight J [instead of daytime F] for the time being as that is available and hope that I'll be able to change it later.
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Old Apr 12, 2015, 6:35 am
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Originally Posted by jms_uk
Using awardnexus, BA and QF show availability, whereas JL has none

I'll book overnight J [instead of daytime F] for the time being as that is available and hope that I'll be able to change it later.
YEs Award Nexus pulls from BA I believe. Check with JAL if JAL is showing then everyone will see it. However sometimes BA shows a lot of phantom space especially on CX
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Old Apr 12, 2015, 7:21 am
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Originally Posted by alexisonsmith
However sometimes BA shows a lot of phantom space especially on CX
So what would happen if one is to proceed and try to book with Avios? Would it error out at some point?
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Old Apr 12, 2015, 8:43 am
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Originally Posted by CDKing
Are you looking segment by segment or as origin to Destination. If not segment by segment its likely just phantom
So BA is less likely to show phantom availability when booked by individual segments?
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Old Apr 12, 2015, 9:45 am
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Originally Posted by DaveInLA
So BA is less likely to show phantom availability when booked by individual segments?
Correct. IME BA is much more accurate segment by segment.
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Old Apr 12, 2015, 11:50 am
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Originally Posted by eponymous_coward
Correct. IME BA is much more accurate segment by segment.
Have they made some changes. I just tried to recreate the same issue and did not find the usual discrepancy.

Although I noticed a different issue. Did they disable mixed cabin? I was looking at JFK-SIN on 11/18/15. If i search JFK-SIN I see no F seats. When i search JFK-HKG an HKG-SIN separately i see F seat on JFK-HKG.
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Old Jun 15, 2015, 12:46 pm
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Originally Posted by jms_uk
Using awardnexus, BA and QF show availability, whereas JL has none

I'll book overnight J [instead of daytime F] for the time being as that is available and hope that I'll be able to change it later.
Just a quick follow up - about a week ago, 1 F seat opened up on the daytime flight [this is for mid-October] and there was no problem changing J to F. Miles taken immediately, no additional taxes.
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Old Jun 17, 2015, 1:57 am
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Hi -

I am trying to find a one-way award seat JFK-YVR, any class around June 21. ExpertFlyer only shows F availability (but no Z on the usual engines) on each day, but the seat assignments on the planes themselves are wide open in all classes.

I know going TPAC as long as I am flexible on flight and day, space usually opens up a bit in the 24-48 hour window before a given departure. Is the same true for this flight, or will I just be SOL?

Thanks for any input you might have.
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Old Jun 21, 2015, 3:00 am
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Keep checking every day. Mine finally appeared today for a departure on Wednesday.
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Old Jul 7, 2015, 10:51 am
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If I wanted to fly HKG-SAN on CX would AS allow HKG-BOS-SAN or would I be forced to use a Western gateway (LAX/SFO/YVR) to avoid back tracking?
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Old Jul 7, 2015, 11:00 am
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Originally Posted by Madone59
If I wanted to fly HKG-SAN on CX would AS allow HKG-BOS-SAN or would I be forced to use a Western gateway (LAX/SFO/YVR) to avoid back tracking?
AS is not likely to allow a cross-country routing. Personally, I'd spring for the positioning flight SFO-SAN if it came down to it- 5+ hours in AS F rather than a little over an hour in OAL Y is a no-brainer IMO, even if you're paying for a cheap WN/VX ticket.
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