LH earning
Mar 9, 2015, 12:01 am
#16
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Indeed - that would be way, way off-topic for this thread. There are other threads both in this forum and others on mileage runs for all the airline alliances. They should be used for those that know of a good deal, which is what FT is about.
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Mar 9, 2015, 2:04 am
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Is there any way to let A3 know that this "issue" is there?
Mar 9, 2015, 4:46 am
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This is also something I am very interested in. I am looking at fares in PE MUC-XXX-AKL and connecting in HKG between LH and NZ offers a nice price so far. But LH books in "N", which used to be a deeply discounted economy, so A3 does not pay any miles there.
Is there any way to let A3 know that this "issue" is there?
Is there any way to let A3 know that this "issue" is there?
Mar 9, 2015, 5:52 am
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And I also understand that if K, L, T (deep discounted economy) and P (deep discounted Business) earn nothing, N would probably have the same fate.
However, it would be nice to know for a fact, instead of just speculating
EDIT: Speaking of "P" fares, SQ sells PE seats in "P" which A3 rewards at 150%, since this is seen as a First class ticket. Now that's more like it
Last edited by malmostoso; Mar 9, 2015 at 10:54 am
Mar 9, 2015, 8:29 pm
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The phrases "Lufthansa", "nice price" and "mileage earning" are very often mutually exclusive - just look at the non-earning P fares in Business. LH has non-mileage earning fare classes in both Economy and Business. Why would PE be any different? I'd be very wary of booking that in the hope that there's some sort of catch-up required in A3's earning table - it might well be it's not going to change.
I am debating whether to go to TK by getting TK to match my A3 gold status, but I understand with TK you lose miles after three years. But I guess that is a discussion for another topic / board.
Mar 10, 2015, 2:02 am
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I don't doubt that's the case - the problem is, LH has a strong record of introducing cheaper, non-earning fare buckets in each cabin (more than one in Y). There's a strong chance PE will be the same, so until the chart is updated no-one is going to know at what pay-point earning kicks in.
Mar 10, 2015, 4:17 pm
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A3 is unique among *A FFP programs in allowing gold requalification for so little. The point I was making is that many airline agents, especially Lufthansa ones, know this and behave accordingly.
Mar 10, 2015, 11:56 pm
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There are extreme examples in any FFP - for example, the right mileage run in a BA sale from, say, DUB nets enough miles and BA sectors to qualify for what's a far, far more valuable Gold status for something like £1000 (€1400). I don't believe all BA Golds get treated any worse as a result, so the fact remains that the majority of people have to spend reasonably significant amounts of money to reach A3*G.
To speculate on why LH may or may not treat some FFP's less favourably than others is heading towards a potentially political argument which is OMNI territory and does not belong here, but suffice it to say that I don't believe A3 Gold members are discriminated against for flying pattern reasons.
To speculate on why LH may or may not treat some FFP's less favourably than others is heading towards a potentially political argument which is OMNI territory and does not belong here, but suffice it to say that I don't believe A3 Gold members are discriminated against for flying pattern reasons.
Mar 11, 2015, 8:19 pm
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On a slightly related note, can't seem to access the LH earning chart on the A3 website since yesterday:
https://en.aegeanair.com/milesandbon.../all-airlines/
Can access the other airlines and I don't think its a browser issue as I've tried with both FF and IE.
Also I note that SQ earning has not updated since 2010!
https://en.aegeanair.com/milesandbon.../all-airlines/
Can access the other airlines and I don't think its a browser issue as I've tried with both FF and IE.
Also I note that SQ earning has not updated since 2010!
Mar 11, 2015, 8:58 pm
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Seems like A3 doesn't have a consistent policy with respect to Premium Economy miles - A3 does not award miles for LH or LOT premium economy (N or O classes), but does give 100% miles to AC and TK PE. I wrote to A3 about it.
Mar 12, 2015, 12:09 am
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No, it hasn't changed since 2010 - it may do shortly as a result of SQ's introduction of PE on a few routes, but prior to that there was no reason for an update.
SQ didn't changed its offering or fare buckets that earn for years. That isn't the case for LH, with many changes to discount fares in Y and C, plus now the introduction of PE.
SQ didn't changed its offering or fare buckets that earn for years. That isn't the case for LH, with many changes to discount fares in Y and C, plus now the introduction of PE.
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Mar 12, 2015, 4:36 pm
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I took AC PE to Athens last summer and found the product better than LH in coach. Not only that, we got 150% MCO-YYZ and 100% YYZ-ATH. Until I can get at least 100% credit for PE on LH, I am switching to AC Rouge for most trips to Greece.
Jul 23, 2015, 12:53 am
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Has anyone had any success since march 2015 in earning miles on a Premium Economy booking on LH. LH seems to book this into an "N" class which they advertise as earning 100% miles. But Aegean's earning chart shows 'N" earns zero.
Jul 23, 2015, 1:33 am
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If A3 says zero for "N" fares with LH, then probably no chance, until this is updated.