5 days around Tuscon
#31
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Join Date: Jul 2002
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Last year I did both Organ Pipe and Saguaro National Park and they are absolutely worth visiting. Organ Pipe especially where I had the whole place to myself.
Oh and I suggest a lunch here: http://tucsontamale.com/
Oh and I suggest a lunch here: http://tucsontamale.com/
#35
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: CP-ASEL,AMEL,G-IA in Tucson, Arizona, United States
Posts: 1,124
Boneyard tours are available: http://www.pimaair.org/visit/tour
#36
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Join Date: Dec 2008
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Did I just get scammed on insurance? Rented from Payless at PHX. I live in NYC, don't own a car, and so have no car insurance, and normally decline all insurance when renting. I use CCs that cover CDW/LDW and my understanding was that in most (all?) states the rental car company automatically provides liability insurance up to the state mandated minimum limits. Payless at PHX says this is not the case in AZ and since I don't have insurance, they billed me at ~$15/day with their supplemental liability insurance (SLI). They said I could be fined $800 otherwise if I was pulled over. I checked with a couple of other rental car agencies at the airport before signing the Payless contract and they said the same thing.
The contract says in block letters that the OWNER DOES NOT PROVIDE PUBLIC LIABILITY INSURANCE COVERAGE TO THE RENTER. So I figured I needed it or I would be driving illegally, as the guy said.
The guy at the counter also said that AZ is the only state where the rental companies don't extend even basic liability coverage to renters (whether primary or secondary). But if I look at the Hertz website (https://www.hertz.com/rentacar/reser...RAGES&EOAG=SFO) it says they provide secondary liability protection up to the state minimums in all states except Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Minnesota, New York, South Carolina, Virginia, or West Virginia (where they provide primary liability protection instead).
Did I just get suckered? Also, I got the supplemental liability insurance. It seems I could have got the the renter liability insurance which would cover me up to the minimum limits and was presumably cheaper?
The contract says in block letters that the OWNER DOES NOT PROVIDE PUBLIC LIABILITY INSURANCE COVERAGE TO THE RENTER. So I figured I needed it or I would be driving illegally, as the guy said.
The guy at the counter also said that AZ is the only state where the rental companies don't extend even basic liability coverage to renters (whether primary or secondary). But if I look at the Hertz website (https://www.hertz.com/rentacar/reser...RAGES&EOAG=SFO) it says they provide secondary liability protection up to the state minimums in all states except Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Minnesota, New York, South Carolina, Virginia, or West Virginia (where they provide primary liability protection instead).
Did I just get suckered? Also, I got the supplemental liability insurance. It seems I could have got the the renter liability insurance which would cover me up to the minimum limits and was presumably cheaper?
#37
Join Date: May 2002
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Sounds like it. The internet is littered with complaints about Payless' strong-arm insurance practices. Including this judgement obtained by the AZ AG about their broken windshield insurance scam.
Have a great time in Tucson and be sure to thoroughly photograph the car when returning it.
Have a great time in Tucson and be sure to thoroughly photograph the car when returning it.
#38
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Some co-workers took me to "Wine Country" in Tucson and it was really fun. Whites are better than the reds; the drive was beautiful (the desert is VERY different than the PacNW); and if you bring your own glass you get a couple of $ off the wine tasting.
Afterwards went to have authentic Mexican food - looks like a dive but good food - CrossRoads Caf. First time I had tasted mole and wow! VERY good. Be prepared though - this isn't Chipolte and it's just good food and inexpensive prices.
Also, there are a lot of festivals and concerts coming up in the next two months. The restaurant scene is really good here - I have had some very good meals. Try and grab a copy of Edibles.
Afterwards went to have authentic Mexican food - looks like a dive but good food - CrossRoads Caf. First time I had tasted mole and wow! VERY good. Be prepared though - this isn't Chipolte and it's just good food and inexpensive prices.
Also, there are a lot of festivals and concerts coming up in the next two months. The restaurant scene is really good here - I have had some very good meals. Try and grab a copy of Edibles.
#39
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: PHX
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Posts: 929
Some co-workers took me to "Wine Country" in Tucson and it was really fun. Whites are better than the reds; the drive was beautiful (the desert is VERY different than the PacNW); and if you bring your own glass you get a couple of $ off the wine tasting.
Afterwards went to have authentic Mexican food - looks like a dive but good food - CrossRoads Caf. First time I had tasted mole and wow! VERY good. Be prepared though - this isn't Chipolte and it's just good food and inexpensive prices.
Also, there are a lot of festivals and concerts coming up in the next two months. The restaurant scene is really good here - I have had some very good meals. Try and grab a copy of Edibles.
Afterwards went to have authentic Mexican food - looks like a dive but good food - CrossRoads Caf. First time I had tasted mole and wow! VERY good. Be prepared though - this isn't Chipolte and it's just good food and inexpensive prices.
Also, there are a lot of festivals and concerts coming up in the next two months. The restaurant scene is really good here - I have had some very good meals. Try and grab a copy of Edibles.
The divey Mexican restaurants are always the best Mexican restaurants.
Are you still in Tucson? Go to El Guero Canelo and get a Sonoran Hot Dog. Trust me
#40
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Scottsdale, AZ
Programs: AA 2MM - UA 1P / Hyatt Diamond - SPG Plat / Hertz 5* - Avis 1st
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#41
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: PHX
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#42
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Scottsdale, AZ
Programs: AA 2MM - UA 1P / Hyatt Diamond - SPG Plat / Hertz 5* - Avis 1st
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