Possible Destinations (Cush Interview)
Oct 26, 2009 | 9:02 pm
#31
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If VX will have to be approval from DOT authority. If they will bring award more slots into DCA. Due to perimeter rule is on the restrictions 1,400 miles and it cannot be allowed to flying transcons flight out of DCA-SFO/LAX. If they will have to be filing with DOT to get in negotiations deal. If perhaps it will have to take the advantage of VX only for DCA-JFK instead of going to transcons flight. Because it was too many congestions control in DCA. Lets speculating begin if VX is considers for DCA-JFK or DCA-FLL.
Oct 27, 2009 | 10:11 am
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Considering that DL and US had to do some LGA/DCA swaps to rightsize their ops, I am not optimistic that the DOT will start handing out DCA slots like they are Halloween candy- plus there's the factor that they'd be duplicating their IAD efforts and have to set up another station, for very little extra benefit in terms of metro area coverage. Why on earth would you serve both DCA and IAD and not have anything in places like PHX, DFW, DEN, ORD/MDW, ATL?
VX needs a bigger network to add more value. Two stations in Northern VA within 30 miles of each other do very little to help with that.
VX needs a bigger network to add more value. Two stations in Northern VA within 30 miles of each other do very little to help with that.
Oct 27, 2009 | 12:15 pm
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Other than that, I agree that VX having two stations so close together at this point would be of little value.
Oct 27, 2009 | 3:27 pm
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Erm, where is VX going to get DCA slots from? Not to mention the problem that they'd be running SFO/LAX-IAD and JFK-DCA, so they'd be duplicating ground staff and so on for not much gain.
I don't think VX is going to try hubbing on the East Coast- you see, there's this other carrier operating Airbuses out of JFK as an LCC you might have heard of...
Personally, I think they will want to show the midcon some love (DFW, DEN and ORD) next... and the service will be out of CA.
I don't think VX is going to try hubbing on the East Coast- you see, there's this other carrier operating Airbuses out of JFK as an LCC you might have heard of...
Personally, I think they will want to show the midcon some love (DFW, DEN and ORD) next... and the service will be out of CA.
IF VX makes a East Coast hub, JFK or IAD make the most sense.
Oct 27, 2009 | 3:50 pm
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VX's F product is certainly superior to B6. But B6's Y product has some advantages over VX. I haven't flown VX coach, but from what I understand, B6's coach is more comfortable. The live portion of the LiveTV is better on B6. Of course BOB food is better on VX. But JFK and FLL are fortress hubs for B6, and you really don't want to compete there. They have already destroyed all of the legacies JFK-FLL. You saw how quickly they responded when VX announced SFO/LAX-FLL.
Oct 30, 2009 | 9:44 pm
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VX's F product is certainly superior to B6. But B6's Y product has some advantages over VX. I haven't flown VX coach, but from what I understand, B6's coach is more comfortable. The live portion of the LiveTV is better on B6. Of course BOB food is better on VX. But JFK and FLL are fortress hubs for B6, and you really don't want to compete there. They have already destroyed all of the legacies JFK-FLL. You saw how quickly they responded when VX announced SFO/LAX-FLL.
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Oct 31, 2009 | 10:57 pm
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No, we hasn't hear anything more news from VX lately. SO it should wait for awhile until VX is expect to be announced more new potential routes for SFO-HNL/OGG/KOA/LIH/ITO. It will bring more ETOPS overwater restrictions is 120 minutes. VX will have to be installed more lifejacket & liferaft, too.
Yes, FAA ETOPS certifications will have to be deployed on A319 or A320 aircraft. This is restrictions due to flying overwater must to have with certifications from FAA. If they will bring more extra fuel tanks to be installed for flying crossing the oceans.
Yes, FAA ETOPS certifications will have to be deployed on A319 or A320 aircraft. This is restrictions due to flying overwater must to have with certifications from FAA. If they will bring more extra fuel tanks to be installed for flying crossing the oceans.
Nov 2, 2009 | 10:11 pm
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IAD will absolutely be an east coast focus city for VX. WN is the correct model and VX will use IAD as a small spoke to other destinations. VX is learning quick that United is a weak competitor and IAD has little else to offer to such a vast market. They are not going to go head-to-head with Jet Blue yet...JFK is a quagmire. I fully expect flights in 2-3 years to appear from IAD to FLL, Caribbean, BOS, ORD, as well as the plethora of middle markets that make the east coast a bonanza in comparison to the west. As well, there will be a great opportunity to feed the VA flights to London out of IAD. DCA is only a bet if destination restrictions are lifted and slots open up...5-10 years at best.
Nov 10, 2009 | 1:43 pm
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Does anyone have any idea when the next city will be announced? I know they pretty much just announced FLL...not sure if anything else was coming soon...
Nov 15, 2009 | 10:19 pm
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DL is moving ops to Terminal 2 at ORD this week. This frees up five gates on concourse L. Hopefully this will be the opening for VX to get in at ORD. I've been waiting for over a year!
Nov 16, 2009 | 1:35 pm
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There's some gate moving with DL/NW at PHL going on soon as well...should be some more space opening up there...that would be AMAZING if they started flying there soon!