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eng3 Nov 21, 2024 5:40 am


Originally Posted by hfly (Post 36686479)
Takes the same amount of time, in fact since doing away with page add ons, their stock of bigger passports has increased. I wonder how much extra money they have made out of this, I used to blow through each addition every 18 months on average, but add on pages cost nothing. The only thing saving me from having to renew every year or two are the move away by certain countries from stamping passports (UK, HK, the US itself for US citizens) Certain countries doing away with full page visas, and doing so in an E format, certain countries moving toward longer term visas (So 1 ten year China visa rather than 10+ over a ten year period, 10 year India visas etc), and second passports moving to 4 from 2 year durations. That being said even with bigger passports, I am still spending far more per decade than I was before.

I thought about the thicker book 5yrs ago but I thought I'd be ok and didnt want to have to carry around a thicker book. I only blew threw the pages because in the past 5yrs, my opportunities to visit asia have been few and far between so I visited Europe alot. The agents don't take any effort to try to fit more stamps on the existing pages first. Schengen keeps saying they are getting rid of stamps but it keeps getting delayed. Ofcourse now, it's become far more difficult to find upgrades going to europe so I've been visiting asia more.

Xyzzy Nov 21, 2024 6:01 am


Originally Posted by eng3 (Post 36686793)
I thought about the thicker book 5yrs ago but I thought I'd be ok and didnt want to have to carry around a thicker book. I only blew threw the pages because in the past 5yrs, my opportunities to visit asia have been few and far between so I visited Europe alot. The agents don't take any effort to try to fit more stamps on the existing pages first. Schengen keeps saying they are getting rid of stamps but it keeps getting delayed. Ofcourse now, it's become far more difficult to find upgrades going to europe so I've been visiting asia more.

I find that judicious use of a paperclip to direct an immigration where to stamp helps greatly. I just clip over all the blank pages in the back except one. Some don't like that and remove the paperclip to have a look. But they almost always see what I'm trying to do and find a place to stamp without picking the middle of some rand:Dm page.

eng3 Nov 21, 2024 12:29 pm


Originally Posted by Xyzzy (Post 36686831)
I find that judicious use of a paperclip to direct an immigration where to stamp helps greatly. I just clip over all the blank pages in the back except one. Some don't like that and remove the paperclip to have a look. But they almost always see what I'm trying to do and find a place to stamp without picking the middle of some rand:Dm page.

Good idea. I saw a random "Travel blog" that suggested placing postit notes over all the spots except where you want them to stamp. That sounds like someone who has never traveled.

However, regardless, I think I'll still get the thicker book. If the paperclip trick doesnt work, I dont want to have to renew so early again

Xyzzy Nov 21, 2024 2:41 pm


Originally Posted by eng3 (Post 36687610)
Good idea. I saw a random "Travel blog" that suggested placing postit notes over all the spots except where you want them to stamp. That sounds like someone who has never traveled.

However, regardless, I think I'll still get the thicker book. If the paperclip trick doesnt work, I dont want to have to renew so early again

I always get the thicker book. 10 years is a l:cool:ng time and I know I'll fill up the smaller one.

Infinite1K Nov 21, 2024 5:51 pm


Originally Posted by Xyzzy (Post 36687896)
I always get the thicker book. 10 years is a l:cool:ng time and I know I'll fill up the smaller one.

With more and more countries going with e-gates for passport control and/or e-Visas if a visa is needed, it will be increasingly more difficult to get the pages stamped.

eng3 Nov 21, 2024 7:20 pm


Originally Posted by Infinite1K (Post 36688217)
With more and more countries going with e-gates for passport control and/or e-Visas if a visa is needed, it will be increasingly more difficult to get the pages stamped.

Many asian countries still stamp.
Just goto europe (schengen) and you'll get a stamp. Even after going through the e-gate, they still stamp it. Then when you leave again. I know with the new system you don't need one but that system's been delayed many times. Not quite as bad as real id. Sometimes on a single trip I may enter and exit schengen more than once and lose a whole page. If you take the train or bus across, I notice the guards take care to stamp and everyone has 8-10 stamps on a page. I guess the people that ride some of those cross frequently. But going through the airport, it's mostly 4. Once you're down to 1-2 pages, then they might start to care but its too late.

Infinite1K Nov 21, 2024 10:34 pm


Originally Posted by eng3 (Post 36688342)
Many asian countries still stamp.
Just goto europe (schengen) and you'll get a stamp. Even after going through the e-gate, they still stamp it. Then when you leave again. I know with the new system you don't need one but that system's been delayed many times. Not quite as bad as real id. Sometimes on a single trip I may enter and exit schengen more than once and lose a whole page. If you take the train or bus across, I notice the guards take care to stamp and everyone has 8-10 stamps on a page. I guess the people that ride some of those cross frequently. But going through the airport, it's mostly 4. Once you're down to 1-2 pages, then they might start to care but it’s too late.

My point was that the number of instances where a stamp is required is decreasing.

For instance Singapore just went all e-Gate and no more stamps.

And while Japan still gets you the stamp inbound, outbound has EU will go stamp-less in the future.

UK also is stampless.

Taking my own travel patterns, if I almost filled up the extra pages passport before with my old passport, with the new passport, many of the stamps will not be there anymore, so will likely end up with left over blank pages.

guflyer Nov 28, 2024 10:12 pm

Does anyone know if there is a way to get a second US passport without sending in one's current US passport (this would help me as I am filling up blank pages that are set for stamps)? Can one get an appointment for this? Or is there a way to do this by sending in one's passport card and other identification, or is the only way to do this being without a passport for a couple of weeks?

Section 107 Nov 29, 2024 6:26 pm


Originally Posted by guflyer (Post 36703538)
Does anyone know if there is a way to get a second US passport without sending in one's current US passport (this would help me as I am filling up blank pages that are set for stamps)? Can one get an appointment for this? Or is there a way to do this by sending in one's passport card and other identification, or is the only way to do this being without a passport for a couple of weeks?

https://travel.state.gov/content/tra...port-book.html

guflyer Nov 29, 2024 8:14 pm

Thanks for sending the link. The thing that I was unclear about is whether if one chooses the option "Apply in person at an acceptance facility or passport agency using Form DS-11 if you cannot submit your passport book", a valid reason for this is that one does not have time to wait to get the passport back because of upcoming international travel, or if they only mean for reasons such as having a lost or damaged passport.

Also, there is no risk of having one's passport invalidated from doing this at a passport acceptance facility is there (the way that if one renews one's passport online one's passport becomes invalid)?

Section 107 Nov 29, 2024 11:54 pm

No, the primary is not invalidated as is done with renewals or replacement due to lost, stolen, or damaged.



DualityOfNam Dec 8, 2024 10:14 am

Timeline for renewal, routine service:

11/15/2024: Application mailed via USPS 2-day service
11/18/2024: Package received in Irving, TX, P.O. box - status online "Not Available"
11/19/2024: Status online "In Progress" - locator prefix 43 (New Orleans)
11/20/2024: Check cashed
11/21/2024: Received email notification of "In Progress" status
12/05/2024: USPS notification (with tracking number) of package shipped from "PASSPORT SERVICES/DOS HOT SPRINGS"
12/07/2024: New passport delivered to mailbox. Sender address is New Orleans. Passport issue date is 12/04/2024.
12/08/2024: Online status still "In Progress" (no further emails received from DOS)

Considering the Thanksgiving holiday break, this is an impressive processing time. Expecting the passport card and old passport in the coming days. Will update those timelines then.

Good luck to all.

DualityOfNam Dec 9, 2024 6:07 pm


Originally Posted by DualityOfNam (Post 36723855)
Timeline for renewal, routine service:

11/15/2024: Application mailed via USPS 2-day service
11/18/2024: Package received in Irving, TX, P.O. box - status online "Not Available"
11/19/2024: Status online "In Progress" - locator prefix 43 (New Orleans)
11/20/2024: Check cashed
11/21/2024: Received email notification of "In Progress" status
12/05/2024: USPS notification (with tracking number) of package shipped from "PASSPORT SERVICES/DOS HOT SPRINGS"
12/07/2024: New passport delivered to mailbox. Sender address is New Orleans. Passport issue date is 12/04/2024.
12/08/2024: Online status still "In Progress" (no further emails received from DOS)

Considering the Thanksgiving holiday break, this is an impressive processing time. Expecting the passport card and old passport in the coming days. Will update those timelines then.

Good luck to all.

That's a wrap.

12/09/2024: Old passport book received. Sender address is Sterling, VA (though titled New Orleans Passport Center)
12/09/2024: New passport card received. Sender address is New Orleans, LA
12/09/2024: Online status still "In Progress" (no further emails received from DOS)

Great service!




DualityOfNam Dec 12, 2024 4:41 pm


Originally Posted by DualityOfNam (Post 36727045)
That's a wrap.

12/09/2024: Old passport book received. Sender address is Sterling, VA (though titled New Orleans Passport Center)
12/09/2024: New passport card received. Sender address is New Orleans, LA
12/09/2024: Online status still "In Progress" (no further emails received from DOS)

Great service!

Final update:

12/12/2024: Online status changed to "Supporting documents mailed" (also received an email from DOS with same status)

I guess they don't use status "Approved" anymore. Ah well.

Yahtzee Dec 19, 2024 8:25 am

A bit longer trek than Duality due to my mistake but similar:

10/31/24 Submitted application online
11/4/24 Received email Acknowledging receipt
11/29/24 Received email (and later letter) saying they didn't like the photo I uploaded because I was wearing ear buds. So, I went to CVS for old fashioned passport photos
12/3/24 Mailed passport photos via regular US mail but sent from main post office in Boston so would get right in the stream
12/12/24 Received email acknowledging receipt of photos and saying application was in process "again"
12/16/24 Received email saying application was Approved and they did use that word
12/16/24 Received email saying passport with shipped with tracking number
12/18/24 Received passport


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