lose preferred seating by switching FF number to UA?
#1
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Join Date: Jun 2004
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lose preferred seating by switching FF number to UA?
I'm silver with US and 1K with UA.
Now that it appears you can't get preferred seating on US with *gold, if I made my reservation with my US FF number and then changed it to my UA number would I be reseated? I only kept US silver so I could get exit row seating.
Now that it appears you can't get preferred seating on US with *gold, if I made my reservation with my US FF number and then changed it to my UA number would I be reseated? I only kept US silver so I could get exit row seating.
#2
Join Date: May 2005
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Fair is fair, afterall. It's not like United gives preferred seating to *Gold members from other airlines either. If you're a US Silver, you should still be able to get preferred seating on US.
#3
Join Date: Sep 2006
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I must disagree with you on this one, Dirkman. If we don't think it was right for UA to remove preferred seating for *A pax, then how can we condone US doing the same? ("Two wrongs don't make a right"?) US's reaction seemed very spiteful. Luckily, the rest of the *A has not yet been as spiteful, for I found out that I will still be eligible for preferred seating on an upcoming Air New Zealand flight.
As for the OP's question. If you want preferred seating on US while getting miles on UA, here's how I've been told to do so. Reserve the preferred seat with your DM number when you book the ticket. Then, when you get to the airport, go to the kiosk and change your FF# to your UA number. Your seat assignment will not change.
I'd like to see someone else confirm this strategy because the recent res system migration may have rendered the strategy useless.
#4
Join Date: Dec 2003
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You probably won't loose your outbound preferred seat but you may very well loose the return seat when a computer sweep bumps you out. I can confirm from personal experience that you WILL immediately loose any upgrade you got based on your US status.
#5
Join Date: Sep 2006
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As for the comuter sweep, what if, upon landing after the outbound flight, the OP called the DM number and told them to apply his DM number to the return flight? That should hold his preferred seating assignment. Then the OP would have the option on the day of his return flight to change the FF number to UA's if he so desires.
#6
Join Date: Apr 2005
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In my experience, you won't loose your preferred seating.
#7
Join Date: Dec 2003
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Good point about losing the upgrade, but the OP seems to be referring only to preferred coach seating.
As for the comuter sweep, what if, upon landing after the outbound flight, the OP called the DM number and told them to apply his DM number to the return flight? That should hold his preferred seating assignment. Then the OP would have the option on the day of his return flight to change the FF number to UA's if he so desires.
As for the comuter sweep, what if, upon landing after the outbound flight, the OP called the DM number and told them to apply his DM number to the return flight? That should hold his preferred seating assignment. Then the OP would have the option on the day of his return flight to change the FF number to UA's if he so desires.
I'm thinking it won't because the few times I've switched my FF numbers, I was asked if the flight in question was my outbound. It's led me to believe that once the trip has begun that such a change can no longer be made.
But I could be wrong.
#8
Join Date: Oct 2004
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When both airlines offer the same configurations, then you'd be more likely to see crossover. But when airline A offers a feature airline B does not, why should airline A give that feature away to airline B's customers when airline B has nothing to offer airline A's customers?
#9
Join Date: Sep 2006
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When both airlines offer the same configurations, then you'd be more likely to see crossover. But when airline A offers a feature airline B does not, why should airline A give that feature away to airline B's customers when airline B has nothing to offer airline A's customers?
Your point about US not offering an E+ equivalent is well taken. However, US does have exit rows and bulkheads (legroom!). Granted, there aren't a whole lot of those seats, but other *A members offer their exit rows and bulkheads to *Golds.
#10
Join Date: May 2005
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I must disagree with you on this one, Dirkman. If we don't think it was right for UA to remove preferred seating for *A pax, then how can we condone US doing the same? ("Two wrongs don't make a right"?) US's reaction seemed very spiteful. Luckily, the rest of the *A has not yet been as spiteful, for I found out that I will still be eligible for preferred seating on an upcoming Air New Zealand flight.
#11
Join Date: Mar 2005
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Eh, UA will allow you to pre-reserve any standard Y seat on the plane. Sure, you can't reserve a E+ seat, but given that US doesn't have E+ there's no reciprocal benefit that it can offer to UA's elites.
When both airlines offer the same configurations, then you'd be more likely to see crossover. But when airline A offers a feature airline B does not, why should airline A give that feature away to airline B's customers when airline B has nothing to offer airline A's customers?
When both airlines offer the same configurations, then you'd be more likely to see crossover. But when airline A offers a feature airline B does not, why should airline A give that feature away to airline B's customers when airline B has nothing to offer airline A's customers?
#12
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I must disagree with you on this one, Dirkman. If we don't think it was right for UA to remove preferred seating for *A pax, then how can we condone US doing the same? ("Two wrongs don't make a right"?) US's reaction seemed very spiteful. Luckily, the rest of the *A has not yet been as spiteful, for I found out that I will still be eligible for preferred seating on an upcoming Air New Zealand flight.
As for the OP's question. If you want preferred seating on US while getting miles on UA, here's how I've been told to do so. Reserve the preferred seat with your DM number when you book the ticket. Then, when you get to the airport, go to the kiosk and change your FF# to your UA number. Your seat assignment will not change.
I'd like to see someone else confirm this strategy because the recent res system migration may have rendered the strategy useless.
As for the OP's question. If you want preferred seating on US while getting miles on UA, here's how I've been told to do so. Reserve the preferred seat with your DM number when you book the ticket. Then, when you get to the airport, go to the kiosk and change your FF# to your UA number. Your seat assignment will not change.
I'd like to see someone else confirm this strategy because the recent res system migration may have rendered the strategy useless.
United is the founder of Star Alliance. If it can't set a positive example, then why US Airways go out of its way to honor preferred seating requests from UA flyers? Not to mention the fact that United is a lot bigger than US Airways, next thing we know UA elites are taking away out exit row seats. I love seat 10A on the new US East A319 configuration.
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#14
Join Date: Feb 2004
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I'd be curious if anyone knows the answer to this.
I'm thinking it won't because the few times I've switched my FF numbers, I was asked if the flight in question was my outbound. It's led me to believe that once the trip has begun that such a change can no longer be made.
I'm thinking it won't because the few times I've switched my FF numbers, I was asked if the flight in question was my outbound. It's led me to believe that once the trip has begun that such a change can no longer be made.
As for first class travel with a UA number -- it IS possible. (Or was possible.) Thanks to my messy desk I have here in my hands a bp for travel CLT-SFO Sept 2006, seat 3F (First) and it has my UA number and reads "United Premier UA*S-Star Alliance Silver".
So, at the time at least, it could be done. If I remember how this happened I had called US the day before my flight because I wanted to check on my upgrade (I was a Silver at the time). For some reason my status wasn't in the system, he fixed it, the computer gave me a first seat and I said "What would happen if you put in my UA #?" He (and I) thought it would take my seat away, but he tried it and to our surprise I kept the seat.
#15
Join Date: Mar 2006
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I was able to get a preferred seat at booking on a US flight this last Sunday with my UA # in the reservation since booking.