No more pillows in domestic First Class - aligning with AA
#16
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I've been on the AA side and without pillows on anything but a transcon, but even then I don't miss them. Any flight that I'd want a pillow on I take my own as that soft thing they call a pillow doesn't help me any with head support in any position where I'd want to sleep. I think its good to remove them as they mostly just got put in the footwell when I was on anything but a TATL or TPAC flight.
#17
Join Date: Nov 2013
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I always end up playing the head bob game when using the pillows, so they just get in the way.
Now, opening up the F lav to Y is . Last thing I want is people constantly going up and down that aisle to the point where you can only get restful sleep in a window seat.
Now, opening up the F lav to Y is . Last thing I want is people constantly going up and down that aisle to the point where you can only get restful sleep in a window seat.
#18
Join Date: Jan 2013
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Four segments in F the past few days, all with blanket and no pillow.
I always just tossed both of them in the overhead bin as soon as I got to the seat, so not really missing 'em. I have an actual pillow for long flights.
I always just tossed both of them in the overhead bin as soon as I got to the seat, so not really missing 'em. I have an actual pillow for long flights.
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I can't think of anything more nasty on an airplane than the pillow. (Well the lavatories give them a good run for their money). Never use them. Whenever one is placed on the seat, I always put in it the overhead or on the floor.
#20
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No more pillows in domestic First Class - aligning with AA
Pillows weren't that bad as far as being clean, the pillowcases were changed just about every leg. It's the blankets that are reused during the day. As I said before, and people are verifying the pillows almost always ended up on the floor, in the overhead or occasionally "walking" to Y. Very rarely did anyone actually use them.
#21
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You mean AA F (regional/midcons) didn't have pillows? Didn't realize that. I thought all AA F flights had pillows, in addition to the blankets.
#22
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I've also noticed the pillows missing from my last few flights in US F. I almost always found myself stuffing the pillow next to the seat the moment I sat down through, so I can't say I'm directly affected by the change. I'll lump this into the category of cost-saving moves that I only begrudge because it reminds me they're pinching every penny, not because I actually want a pillow.
It seems to me that a reasonable solution would be for a supply of pillows to still be stocked on board and offered as an option to FC pax, but not simply waiting on every seat.
"Can I offer you a drink prior to takeoff?
Yes, double scotch on the rocks please.
Will you be needing a pillow as well?"
It seems to me that a reasonable solution would be for a supply of pillows to still be stocked on board and offered as an option to FC pax, but not simply waiting on every seat.
"Can I offer you a drink prior to takeoff?
Yes, double scotch on the rocks please.
Will you be needing a pillow as well?"
#23
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Midwest
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Anyone have an idea of how much pillow savings money we are talking about here? Those things can't cost US more than a dollar or two. Will they charge for sodas again next? IMO This is an example of dumb cost cutting.
#24
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I bring an inflatable on by travelrest. It's pretty unwieldy, but does the job. I prefer to not have to use it, but now I guess I will. I don't like the ones that go around the neck and you can't compress and slip in a bag. Personal taste.
Oh well.
Oh well.
#25
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I am one who liked the pillows. I know that some don't use them but to say that 99% don't doesn't mesh with what I see on my flights.
I am not thrilled about this, as it is just one more thing I now need to bring with me that I really don't have any room for.
I can see having a smaller number if they don't seem to all be used, available if requested.
Does AA also have only 1 litre bottles of water on flights? Anyone know if we will be able to get a bottle of water if we want one anytime soon?
I am not thrilled about this, as it is just one more thing I now need to bring with me that I really don't have any room for.
I can see having a smaller number if they don't seem to all be used, available if requested.
Does AA also have only 1 litre bottles of water on flights? Anyone know if we will be able to get a bottle of water if we want one anytime soon?
#27
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Or used to cushion those same feet on the bulkhead -- or arm rest in front, or on top of a computer bag.
Or sat on and used as a catalytic converter in all the way across the country.
Or used to muffle a sneeze because there was nothing else.
Stuff like that.
I've seen all of this -- and none of it is particularly rare.
#29
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Because the seatback headrests haven't been put on the floor and rubbed around by shoeless, sockless feet.
Or used to cushion those same feet on the bulkhead -- or arm rest in front, or on top of a computer bag.
Or sat on and used as a catalytic converter in all the way across the country.
Or used to muffle a sneeze because there was nothing else.
Stuff like that.
I've seen all of this -- and none of it is particularly rare.
Or used to cushion those same feet on the bulkhead -- or arm rest in front, or on top of a computer bag.
Or sat on and used as a catalytic converter in all the way across the country.
Or used to muffle a sneeze because there was nothing else.
Stuff like that.
I've seen all of this -- and none of it is particularly rare.
#30
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If the headrest looks dirty, I sometimes will use a handy wipe on it. Moreover, the headrest only touches the back of my head; not my face. And previous users of that headrest were less likely breathing or coughing into it; and in some cases not sitting on it.