Is US Customer Service Always Useless?
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How would you envision getting all these $5's and $1's out to all the FA's and keeping the change bank replenished for every flight? And who takes responsibility for that change bank?
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I tend to agree on part of this. I assume that the reason that US hasn't gone cashless on Express is the sheer number of handheld readers needed (300+) added to the occasional substitution of planes with the contract carriers (on mainline the readers stay with the plane).
As for having a change fund, an airline is certainly different from most businesses. With near 9000 FAs, do you give each a change fund ($180,000 floating around daily), have catering provide a change fund (opening the door to theft), provide each plane with a change fund daily (who handles the distribution with ~500 planes scattered all over the country). An airline certainly isn't a restaurant or local establishment with a limited number of employees in one location.
Jim
As for having a change fund, an airline is certainly different from most businesses. With near 9000 FAs, do you give each a change fund ($180,000 floating around daily), have catering provide a change fund (opening the door to theft), provide each plane with a change fund daily (who handles the distribution with ~500 planes scattered all over the country). An airline certainly isn't a restaurant or local establishment with a limited number of employees in one location.
Jim
All those with flippant responses do no good either. OP had a valid gripe. No need to insult him.
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I've found US customer service to be pretty responsive...to legitimate complaints. I can see why you're irked, as I'd be hungry and irked that there was no change. However, some things just aren't worth complaining about.
Petty complaints = petty responses.
If you didn't get to spend a few more dollars on a business that you don't like, why are you upset? You avoided giving your money to someone who offended you. You won.
Petty complaints = petty responses.
If you didn't get to spend a few more dollars on a business that you don't like, why are you upset? You avoided giving your money to someone who offended you. You won.
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So for all the people who are saying US Air customer service isn't useless, do you actually have a recent experience with customer service to justify their usefulness. Recently, it seems that the standard customer service mantra is apologize but do nothing to fix any problems.
I've also thought the screaming about cash only on express flights and then credit only on mainline flights is just nonsense. It is an annoying inconsistency that should be addressed and I'm sure US Air corporate could easily implement credit only on express flights. It is also logical, like in any business that deals with cash, that they should mainly have $5's and $1's so change should never be an issue. Frankly, I think it is a valid complaint caused by a combination of a stupid policy and poor planning on US Air's part.
I've also thought the screaming about cash only on express flights and then credit only on mainline flights is just nonsense. It is an annoying inconsistency that should be addressed and I'm sure US Air corporate could easily implement credit only on express flights. It is also logical, like in any business that deals with cash, that they should mainly have $5's and $1's so change should never be an issue. Frankly, I think it is a valid complaint caused by a combination of a stupid policy and poor planning on US Air's part.
I don't disagree about the money but I understand that after giving out change on the first few flights of the day the fly-through lane of the Skyhigh Bank gets a line and tends to cause flight delays.
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Credit card processing equipment = one-time expense, plus minor ongoing processing fees.
Maintaining cash inventory for every plane plus necessary control measures = huge ongoing expense, plus a lot of money tied up in a decidedly non-productive fashion.
Doesn't take a Harvard MBA to make the decision, lost sales alone should make this a no-brainer, forgetting completely the customers you upset by not being able to sell them something.
Maintaining cash inventory for every plane plus necessary control measures = huge ongoing expense, plus a lot of money tied up in a decidedly non-productive fashion.
Doesn't take a Harvard MBA to make the decision, lost sales alone should make this a no-brainer, forgetting completely the customers you upset by not being able to sell them something.
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McDonalds has cash registers, the airplanes don't. McDonalds are mostly/all franchises - the franchisee (through the store manager) is responsible for filling the till every morning. No one person is responsible for every McDonalds in the U.S. or the world. US has more planes that almost all McDonalds franchisee's. And the planes don't sit in constant locations like McDonalds. A change fund would be magnitudes more difficult to administer with the planes than for even a large McDonalds franchisee.
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I don't know how many times I've heard on flights that "correct change is always appreciated." If anyone's traveled more than a few times, they should know that change can very easily be in short supply. Similarly, I've also been to restaurants, grocery stores, gas stations, etc, that have posted signs saying "we need $1s/$5s/whatever." OP, do you get mad when you see that in one of those instances?
The resulting situation was a choice of the OP to do a SDC and forego lunch. If food was so important and given the "wonderful" onboard options for lunch, I'd have suggested the OP get lunch and then try to move up. You can't rely on airlines to be properly catered, or still have an item until they get to you. Quantities are limited.
I empathize with the apathetic FA, but it sounds like there's not a whole lot that can be done.
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With all due respect, having change available on flights should be a no-brainier for airlines. Somehow McDonalds with a few more stores and employees manages to figure this out. Yes, I know different scenario, but my point is, $B companies should have the logistical know-how to make this happen-- or take CCs.
Yes, take CCs... Sure. Thats the only viable solution here. Change is not possible. At all.
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If you're going to sell things, you should be able to make change. Every restaurant and shop in the world knows this and can deal with it. Even bus drivers in most cities can make change. What makes airlines so special or unusual here?
First rule of business: if you want to sell something, make it easy for people to buy it and easy for them to pay. I have never heard of this not being the norm except at Chinese state owned enterprises. However, that's Communist companies in a Communist country. Shouldn't we expect better service in the United States of America?
First rule of business: if you want to sell something, make it easy for people to buy it and easy for them to pay. I have never heard of this not being the norm except at Chinese state owned enterprises. However, that's Communist companies in a Communist country. Shouldn't we expect better service in the United States of America?
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First rule of business: if you want to sell something, make it easy for people to buy it and easy for them to pay. I have never heard of this not being the norm except at Chinese state owned enterprises. However, that's Communist companies in a Communist country. Shouldn't we expect better service in the United States of America?
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...yet no one offers a suggestion on how to do this operationally...
Please - come up with a solution. I'm all ears.
I'm sure the 299 MBA's on staff at US would welcome your suggestions.
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I just though the complaint was valid because of the conflicting policy combined with poorly implementing cash only. I don't think the OP is due any compensation really because there wasn't any actual cost, but customer service shouldn't tell him he is wrong because that is express policy. Policy should not supersede passenger comfort. The appropriate response should have been something like we are constantly looking for ways to improve our service and are looking for ways to better streamline cabin service. Even if it's BS. I've gotten responses basically telling me I was wrong from US Airways telling me an 11+ hour wait on hold is reasonable, hence my tendency to side with the OP.