PHL Runway 17-35 Extension Approved by FAA
Apr 29, 2005, 6:00 pm
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PHL Runway 17-35 Extension Approved by FAA
One of the local Philadelphia news outlets I occasionally monitor noted that the FAA has approved the PHL runway 17-35 extension sometime in the past few weeks:
http://www.phlrunway17-35eis.com/default.asp
Highlights:
Seems to be good news, though I still worry about the impact of ship traffic in the Delaware River, as wheels can go up or down closer to the riverfront after project completion.
http://www.phlrunway17-35eis.com/default.asp
Highlights:
- Extension from 5460 to 6500 feet
- PA 291 will need to be relocated to Bartram/Island Ave on the NW side of I-95
- $36 million project
- 173 flights per day could move off of runway 9-27 to 17-35
- Taxiways will need reconfiguration
- It appears that the study assumes it can be complete by 2007
Seems to be good news, though I still worry about the impact of ship traffic in the Delaware River, as wheels can go up or down closer to the riverfront after project completion.
Apr 30, 2005, 8:17 am
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That is good news, but the runway still intersects 27R, and when complete it will likely intersect the approach path of 27L. So, there are still some inherent limitations since traffic often lands on 27R when winds are coming from the West (which is more often than not).
What aircraft does a 6500' runway enable for take-off AND landing ops? I guess most RJ's are well within limits, and I also imagine most older variant 737s and maybe even 319's can land on it, although I'm not so sure they can take off fully loaded.
What aircraft does a 6500' runway enable for take-off AND landing ops? I guess most RJ's are well within limits, and I also imagine most older variant 737s and maybe even 319's can land on it, although I'm not so sure they can take off fully loaded.
Apr 30, 2005, 8:55 am
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Originally Posted by PHL
That is good news, but the runway still intersects 27R, and when complete it will likely intersect the approach path of 27L. So, there are still some inherent limitations since traffic often lands on 27R when winds are coming from the West (which is more often than not).
What aircraft does a 6500' runway enable for take-off AND landing ops? I guess most RJ's are well within limits, and I also imagine most older variant 737s and maybe even 319's can land on it, although I'm not so sure they can take off fully loaded.
What aircraft does a 6500' runway enable for take-off AND landing ops? I guess most RJ's are well within limits, and I also imagine most older variant 737s and maybe even 319's can land on it, although I'm not so sure they can take off fully loaded.
Apr 30, 2005, 9:11 am
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Originally Posted by bofie
The need for this project assumes that PHL remains a hub for some carrier. Lets hope that is correct.
Apr 30, 2005, 11:47 am
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Originally Posted by PHL
That is good news, but the runway still intersects 27R, and when complete it will likely intersect the approach path of 27L. So, there are still some inherent limitations since traffic often lands on 27R when winds are coming from the West (which is more often than not).
What aircraft does a 6500' runway enable for take-off AND landing ops? I guess most RJ's are well within limits, and I also imagine most older variant 737s and maybe even 319's can land on it, although I'm not so sure they can take off fully loaded.
What aircraft does a 6500' runway enable for take-off AND landing ops? I guess most RJ's are well within limits, and I also imagine most older variant 737s and maybe even 319's can land on it, although I'm not so sure they can take off fully loaded.
Apr 30, 2005, 8:58 pm
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Yes but are they fully loaded when they use that runway at DCA? I don't know that a 757 could get full range with that length for take off, but maybe....
May 1, 2005, 1:11 pm
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Originally Posted by PHL
Yes but are they fully loaded when they use that runway at DCA? I don't know that a 757 could get full range with that length for take off, but maybe....