New Employee Uniforms Coming.....2011
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Why can't there be any threads about UA's future without CO or a merger being brought in? And when there is, why does UA have to do what CO says? What makes them large and in charge?
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how about more order
how about more militaristic uniforms, more naval with a dark color for winter and light color for summer... also how about ranks and real responsibilities for pursers with a uniform that displays the higher rank
this would help give more responsibility and order perhaps
how about actually having a boss on the flight; instead of assigning a purser for the day, make it a real supervisor position?
as for the dark uniform, something other than navy blue or if navy blue, with some accent color(s)
this would help give more responsibility and order perhaps
how about actually having a boss on the flight; instead of assigning a purser for the day, make it a real supervisor position?
as for the dark uniform, something other than navy blue or if navy blue, with some accent color(s)
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Speaking as a woman, I would like to see clothing for the female cabin staff that reflects the FA's primary duty -- securing and maintaining the safety of passengers while in the plane. So -- anything with a skirt should be selected for comfort and decency (in case an FA has to get down on the ground, or bend over). Shoes should NOT have high heels (perhaps this has already been addressed by the FA union -- I seem to see more sensible shoes than before) and clothing should be selected on the basis that styles look OK with comfort shoes and not high heels.
Taken as a job family, female cabin staff on airlines seem to be stuck with some of the most inappropriate and misogynistic uniforms of any service industry I can imagine -- which suggests to me that airlines still think they should pander primarily to male boardroom mentality. Personally, I would rather be told what to do with my carry-on bag by someone in clean running shoes and well-fitting pants that have a little Lycra in them.
Ask Eileen Fisher to design the female FA uniforms -- her demographic matches UA's cabin staff perfectly.
Taken as a job family, female cabin staff on airlines seem to be stuck with some of the most inappropriate and misogynistic uniforms of any service industry I can imagine -- which suggests to me that airlines still think they should pander primarily to male boardroom mentality. Personally, I would rather be told what to do with my carry-on bag by someone in clean running shoes and well-fitting pants that have a little Lycra in them.
Ask Eileen Fisher to design the female FA uniforms -- her demographic matches UA's cabin staff perfectly.
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the cranky banker, I think a good point of reference for "comfortable and functional FA uniforms" would be the Southwest uniforms. From my experience, it seems to be a loose polo or button down shirt, khakis, and comfortable walking shoes.
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Wouldn't they have to negotiate with the union for that, and offer additional compensation? Maybe it's cheaper for UA to do it the way you suggest it's done now.
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how about more militaristic uniforms, more naval with a dark color for winter and light color for summer... also how about ranks and real responsibilities for pursers with a uniform that displays the higher rank
this would help give more responsibility and order perhaps
how about actually having a boss on the flight; instead of assigning a purser for the day, make it a real supervisor position?
as for the dark uniform, something other than navy blue or if navy blue, with some accent color(s)
this would help give more responsibility and order perhaps
how about actually having a boss on the flight; instead of assigning a purser for the day, make it a real supervisor position?
as for the dark uniform, something other than navy blue or if navy blue, with some accent color(s)
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Actually, Pursers do not have a higher rank than any other FA. Any FA can be a purser. Also, being a Purser in no way what so ever makes a FA a supervisor. Now, there is a Qualified Purser Program. FA's who volunteer for this program go for a few days of extra training. But really, the Pursers main responsibility onboard is to be the cabin/cockpit liason, make announcements, take meal orders, deal with pax problems, and assist where needed in the cabin. Just because they are the purser does not mean that they are "in charge" of the rest of the flight crew.
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It may be the case that ensuring passenger safety is the most critical FA duty, in the sense that that's why the FAA requires FAs to be on flights. But the FAs' primary duty, in the sense of what an FA should be expected to be spending most of his/her time working on during most flights, is ensuring passenger comfort.
So, while I don't think uniforms should be misogynistic, I think it is appropriate that they reflect professionalism and/or service. Rather than just being functional and safety-oriented (like the nurses' uniforms that I think were worn by early female FAs).
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I do agree that the job functions have changed though.
seriously though. I read somewhere that the "military look" of the uniforms helps them to have authority during emergencies - so I think that's good. Maybe the employees would have more pride in the uniform if a bunch of employee designs were submitted and then the employees got to vote and choose the winning designs. That's what we did at Trader Joe's.
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[This post is NOT meant to be derogatory in any way against the people in uniform.]
The current dresses make flight attendants who are anything but thin look like furniture. Since I first saw them, on day 1 I commented that those uniforms made the FAs look like couches. Certainly UA can do better than this. They are the most unflattering shmatas that a FA ever had to wear.
The current dresses make flight attendants who are anything but thin look like furniture. Since I first saw them, on day 1 I commented that those uniforms made the FAs look like couches. Certainly UA can do better than this. They are the most unflattering shmatas that a FA ever had to wear.
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Oh, please... bring back those lovely box pleated jumpers.
Timothy
I so miss my transcontinental cheerleading uniforms.
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I so miss my transcontinental cheerleading uniforms.
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Nooooooooooo.......it would be like Burger King of the Skies.