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milepig Dec 10, 2007 12:21 pm
Originally Posted by river_rower (Post 8870201)
I was shocked when I unfurled my napkin and out rolled a stainless butter knife a few trips back as well. ;)(
Aha, this explains where they were. Rather than opening the napkins up to take out the stainless knife, they just warehoused the whole mess and started over fresh. :D

Kurt Dec 10, 2007 1:17 pm
Originally Posted by WayMaker (Post 8869214)
Glad to see the holes back, if indeed they are.

A couple years ago I began to travel with a very small paper clip (the kind that you flip the wire handles back to squeeze open to hold about 30 sheets of paper) in order to attach the napkin to my shirt. I keep the paper clip attached to the wires of my Bose headset, so it's always where I need it. I'll probably continue to keep the clip handy because many times I'm traveling in garments without buttons.

This thread could be entered into the all-time FlyerTalk trivia contest. But in fact, it's not unimportant in a turbulent, unstable environment to have something absorbent positioned strategically, particular with red wine, coffee and chocolate syrup sloshing around.
On SAS in C meals the napkins come with a tiny red "clothes pin" that's perfect for clipping the napkin to one's garment. Very practical!

ThoseAreAnts Dec 10, 2007 1:40 pm
Originally Posted by 1P (Post 8870417)
You've obviously never flown in C and eaten a meal with the footrest up to max (for comfort) and therefore your seat somewhat reclined (also for comfort with your legs in the close-to-horizontal position)...
You're absolutely right. I bring my seat up and put away the footrest when I eat, in order to avoid spilling food down my chest. I choose not to eat meals in bed for the same reason.

Originally Posted by 1P (Post 8870417)
It's not pickiness or boredom, just common sense and a desire to keep one's clothes clean. Of course, there are some people don't care if they display canteen medals on their chests.... :D
Common sense does not mandate a buttonhole in your napkin. I manage quite well to keep canteen medals off my chest without buttonholes in my napkins at home or those provided in restaurants.

I now accept that non-buttonholed napkins are an issue for some passengers. But again, surely it shouldn't feature too far up the service / equipment improvement priority list? (Unless you happen to be Monk.)

kevinsac Dec 10, 2007 1:57 pm
Gawd.....someone is in an agrumentative mood today.

You yourself googled related phrases and found a surprisingly large number of frequent fliers determined this to be a highly prized feature.

It does not make anyone right or wrong. It's just that you are obviously in the minority. Is that causing your foul mood?

Wingnut Dec 10, 2007 4:23 pm
Originally Posted by ThoseAreAnts (Post 8871040)
But again, surely it shouldn't feature too far up the service / equipment improvement priority list?
Of course it should - it's cheap to implement, so the bang for buck is high, so it should be reasonably far up the enhancement ladder.

mlcrx2b Dec 10, 2007 6:07 pm
Are you guys sure it was a buttonhole and not a conveniently sized rip in the napkin?

lucky9876coins Dec 10, 2007 6:45 pm
Originally Posted by mlcrx2b (Post 8872668)
Are you guys sure it was a buttonhole and not a conveniently sized rip in the napkin?
Hehe, I heard they were coming back before Pat reported it, so I highly doubt it was just a rip.:D

Pat89339 Dec 10, 2007 6:52 pm
Originally Posted by mlcrx2b (Post 8872668)
Are you guys sure it was a buttonhole and not a conveniently sized rip in the napkin?
Yes, a proper button hole, although it was somewhat larger than the ones they had previously.


Originally Posted by lucky9876coins (Post 8872842)
Hehe, I heard they were coming back before Pat reported it, so I highly doubt it was just a rip.:D
Yes I remember someone from the inside said a few months ago that they would be coming back with the next order of linens. So they should be showing up on other flights as well.

leech27 Dec 10, 2007 7:07 pm
Originally Posted by kevinsac (Post 8871167)
Gawd.....someone is in an agrumentative mood today.

You yourself googled related phrases and found a surprisingly large number of frequent fliers determined this to be a highly prized feature.

It does not make anyone right or wrong. It's just that you are obviously in the minority. Is that causing your foul mood?
Well, strictly speaking, you don't know you're in the majority. Just because a lot of folks have posted about it on the web doesn't mean most C & F travelers actually care about it. Clearly there are quite a few on FT that do care, but you can't really infer anything from that.

Case in point - the term "furries" has more hits than "buttonhole". Make of that what you will ;).

ff100 Dec 10, 2007 7:08 pm
Great move United:):):):):)

Next maybe we can bring back the complimentary playing cards.
Be nice to get up a game of canasta with my seat mate:D

u600213 Dec 10, 2007 7:15 pm
Had Button hole last week on UA620 from ORD-DCA as reported in my let's Eat post:
http://flyertalk.com/forum/showpost....&postcount=732

DenverBrian Dec 10, 2007 7:54 pm
Let's see if I can clear up some of the controversy on buttonholes:

--Buttonhole napkins are considered by some to be an upgrade. It's a nice touch. Meaning, their presence is seen as a positive, and their absence seen as evidence of deteriorating service levels overall.

--Buttonhole napkins are considered by some to be "no big deal." Meaning, thier presence doesn't offend, nor does their absence.

--It appears that NO ONE is "against" buttonhole napkins.

--Cost of buttonhole napkins vs. non-buttonholes is apparently negligible.

Therefore, I join the right side of this issue :D :D :D. Let us rejoice! Buttonhole napkins have returned!

(I am only sorry I didn't get them on my SYD flights over Thanksgiving week.)

Sweet Willie Dec 10, 2007 8:33 pm
I'm glad they are back as well, I've been using a very small plastic "clothespin" that I received on an El-Al flight.

jef7 Dec 10, 2007 9:17 pm
Pictures (lots of them) please!

:D

mrio Dec 11, 2007 12:16 am
Flew FC from PHL - SNN on US last week on one of the last ETOPS rated 757 built (wow what a beautiful aircraft) and I never even knew napkins like this existed. Nonetheless, I'm no slob -but that napkin totally saved me from some aggressive balsamic vinegar and salmon juice stains on my favorite Zegna shirt... or maybe I just had too many Chivas Regals heh.

Cheers.


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