Mybe Glenn wants to go to Vegas sometime next year. Wants to make sure F seat is available. :rolleyes:

I would do nearly anything to cut the friggin' Ted service to MCO! Bring on the two class baby...yeah!

There is a version of F on TED. It's called rows 10 and 11. :D

(Was in 11C on ORD-TPA today.)

Not true, rows 10 and 11 out of TPA are employee rows, unlik... oh, nevermind.:D

+1 and LAS!!

I've said before on here that I purposely go out of my way to avoid Ted. Its horrible. Example: Ted runs IAD-LAS. I book IAD-LAX-LAS just to get decent transcon service. IAD-LAS doesn't even have fresh food to buy, thats inexcusable. I did that flight once and it was truly unbearable. TED gets two :td::td:

UA should provide European style "business class" service on TED, whereby they hard block the middle seat in each row of "C". The size of the "C" cabin changes based on the number of F or C tickets purchased.

I like that idea. Any others? Is that "first class enough" for you all? :)

Plus real food and drink, I'd be tempted.

I know some people like European Business, but I can't stand it. I would rather have what UA has now than European Business as it is (typically with less legroom). Of course I think you mean leave Economy Plus, but still, I don't see what the benefit is. What's the real difference between a "hard" block and a "soft" block, where you just have an empty middle? That seems like a lot of unneccessary work, especially when it comes to keeping turnover times short. They would also need to do quite a bit of reconfiguring since they would need ovens to serve food, assuming they want to serve real food.

I have several family members who work for UA. They say UA is just removing one row of seats from Ted so the passenger count is 150 vs 156. This is purely for FA staffing (can get by with one less per FAA minimums). JetBlue already does this and UA doesn't seem concerned about increased passenger to FA ratio or its effect on service. They've also been having trouble when they substitute equipment downline (due to poor fleet planning or mechanicals) because they don't have the extra FA available for the Ted aircraft.

this makes sense and you have to wonder what brain trust added the 6 seats to being with.

Don't you mean "tempTED"?

The difference between a hard block and a soft block is that the hard block is guaranteed. Plenty of times we've all seen our blocked middle seat become occupied at the last minute. Certainly wouldn't want that when paying for a premium cabin.

That said, I just don't think the right service culture exists at UA, certainly not in the short-haul division. If you fly LH from FRA-LHR, say, the meal you get will be substantially better quality (as will the drinks) than a UA meal on comparable length flight. Unless UA funded better meals from the diminished spend on premium seats, this would not be as good of a soft product as you find on the good European airlines, and thus, a net loss for the customer.

I'll believe it when I see it. Although it would allow for E+ throughout the plane.

I dont think that is the case. Removing 1 row of E- would allow you an extra 31 inches of room. You could spread this out how you choose. Currently there are 11 rows of E+ and 14 rows of E-. The leg room is 5 inches difference, (36 vs 31) so this would allow you to install 6 more E+ rows or allow 2 more inches of leg room in E- or 1 inch more (give or take) in all rows.