IAD-Dubai to start soon
May 1, 2007, 8:18 pm
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Also, Qatar Airways, possibly the best airline in the world (along with SQ) (and superior to Emirates in my limited experience, which does not include long-haul), announced that it is beginning service from DOH to NYC and IAD (unclear whether it would be separate flights or a continuation).
DOH-EWR is 4 x weekly via GVA (332)
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May 1, 2007, 10:17 pm
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But if this route turns out to be targeted at the government cargo/pax, the premium product really doesn't matter. Thanks to the Fly American Act, it'll be lucrative for any US carrier able to get there. The only 2007 GSA city pair for Dubai is NYC-DXB on AA.
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May 1, 2007, 10:48 pm
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How does NYC-DXB on AA happen, a code-share? DL is to do this on their own plane, but AA, CO, NW, US definitely don't do NYC-DXB on their own planes.
May 2, 2007, 6:05 am
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it'll be IAD-KWI-DXB
May 2, 2007, 7:07 am
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I imagine customers will be more likely to spring for an DXB non-stop from the U.S. than 1-stop service through KWI. Afterall, EK offers a pretty good non-stop alternative.
May 2, 2007, 12:31 pm
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that's true. either way, it'll be part of the KWI flight.
May 2, 2007, 1:04 pm
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Being part of the KWI flight makes sense. Just how UA hops over to MVD from EZE.
May 2, 2007, 1:06 pm
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May 2, 2007, 2:06 pm
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According to the October 1, Fiscal Year 2007, Airline City Pair Awards spreadsheet, yes. I opened it and did a search for DXB and the only result was NYC-DXB on AA out of JFK/EWR/LGA.
All this means is that travel between NYC and DXB should be on AA or an AA codeshare. Since there are no other GSA city-pair awards, any other origination city could be served by any airline, with preference going to US-flagged carriers (and foreign carriers operating on a US carrier's codeshare).
I'm not familiar with the route, since I usually fly to BAH (UA to LHR, BA (AA codeshare?) to BAH). However, doing a dummy booking SAN-BAH through the DTS travel portal I could pick flights on Northwest/KLM, UA/LH, DL, CO/AF.
All this means is that travel between NYC and DXB should be on AA or an AA codeshare. Since there are no other GSA city-pair awards, any other origination city could be served by any airline, with preference going to US-flagged carriers (and foreign carriers operating on a US carrier's codeshare).
I'm not familiar with the route, since I usually fly to BAH (UA to LHR, BA (AA codeshare?) to BAH). However, doing a dummy booking SAN-BAH through the DTS travel portal I could pick flights on Northwest/KLM, UA/LH, DL, CO/AF.
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May 2, 2007, 3:02 pm
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According to the October 1, Fiscal Year 2007, Airline City Pair Awards spreadsheet, yes. I opened it and did a search for DXB and the only result was NYC-DXB on AA out of JFK/EWR/LGA.
All this means is that travel between NYC and DXB should be on AA or an AA codeshare. Since there are no other GSA city-pair awards, any other origination city could be served by any airline, with preference going to US-flagged carriers (and foreign carriers operating on a US carrier's codeshare).
I'm not familiar with the route, since I usually fly to BAH (UA to LHR, BA (AA codeshare?) to BAH). However, doing a dummy booking SAN-BAH through the DTS travel portal I could pick flights on Northwest/KLM, UA/LH, DL, CO/AF.
All this means is that travel between NYC and DXB should be on AA or an AA codeshare. Since there are no other GSA city-pair awards, any other origination city could be served by any airline, with preference going to US-flagged carriers (and foreign carriers operating on a US carrier's codeshare).
I'm not familiar with the route, since I usually fly to BAH (UA to LHR, BA (AA codeshare?) to BAH). However, doing a dummy booking SAN-BAH through the DTS travel portal I could pick flights on Northwest/KLM, UA/LH, DL, CO/AF.
May 2, 2007, 4:04 pm
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May 2, 2007, 6:26 pm
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Over time people will realize it's an option and start booking it over thier 'usual' flights.
May 2, 2007, 6:29 pm
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One of the things that will take some time is for units to be aware of the IAD-KWI flight. I know when I went over back in Nov/Dec, nobody at any of the units I was working with were aware of the flight. They were all thrilled at cutting out the 6+ hours via going through FRA.
Over time people will realize it's an option and start booking it over thier 'usual' flights.
Over time people will realize it's an option and start booking it over thier 'usual' flights.
May 3, 2007, 12:26 am
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If UA can get the IAD-DXB route i am sure they will just fill up based on the traffic to the indian subcontinent. The main reason, almost all mid cities have connections from Dubai unlike from Europe. THere is a huge population arround IAD that has to either IAD -NYC-DXB- IND or IAD- EUROPE-DUBAI-IND. If you remove europe out of the equation you can be competitive on the fare by about 200-300 dollars just avoiding the fees. THat said i prefer DXB because i can meet up with my friends on a break journey!
THat said status miles or not for the same fare i will not move from Qatar or EK to us based carrier for a 20 hr flight. Forget UA being competitive to EK in premium seats they are not even competitive in the Economy (including the E+). BTw i have atleast gotten Buss. (but not F) upgrades every time i fly EK on one leg or the other. So they do have free premium seats (only other airline that equally matches free upgrades (w/ horrible service) is BA ... atleast to india).
THat said status miles or not for the same fare i will not move from Qatar or EK to us based carrier for a 20 hr flight. Forget UA being competitive to EK in premium seats they are not even competitive in the Economy (including the E+). BTw i have atleast gotten Buss. (but not F) upgrades every time i fly EK on one leg or the other. So they do have free premium seats (only other airline that equally matches free upgrades (w/ horrible service) is BA ... atleast to india).
May 3, 2007, 7:18 am
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