Does this seem fair?
#1
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Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: DC
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Does this seem fair?
I was supposed to fly IAD-SAN yesterday afternoon and was upgraded with CR1s to F. My upgrades (out and back) confirmed a few weeks ago. Yesterday about 12 hours before the flight UA cancelled the flight due to crew. I was automatically rebooked on the next flight but in Y, as F was already full. I was only spending a couple hours in SAN for a meeting and when they rebooked me, I was placed on a flight that landed in SAN one hour before my return trip to IAD, which meant I couldn't attend my meeting and there was no reason to take the trip, so I had to cancel the entire itinerary. The two CR1s I used expire this month (March) and now since UA cancelled my flight I will lose the upgrades. Coincidentally I'm also flying to LAX on Saturday (Apr. 1) and also upgraded to F and am confirmed with different CR1s. Here is my question: I called MP and explained the situation and requested that the March CR1s be extended *just one day* so I can use them and not lose them, as UA cancelled my flight. It thought it would be fair since I had confirmed the upgrade a while back and now I can't redeem them. I was given a flat out "NO" by the MP Prem Exec desk. I just don't think that seems fair. A one day extension should not be a problem, especially given this situation. Am I out of line? Should I call back again and speak with someone else? Thanks for the input!
#2
Join Date: May 2003
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I would try again with another agent. It seems like a small request given the disruption they caused you.
#3
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There are lots of things in life that are not fair. Will this wrinkle matter 5 years from now? Will it matter 3 months form now? You have to decide how much energy you want to give it. A little tenacity then move on - that's my philosophy.
#4
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Repeat after me:
"If at first you don't succeed, hang up and call again ..."
"If at first you don't succeed, hang up and call again ..."
#5
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Does anyone know if they track such requests? I.e. if I do call back again (which I intend to do) will it not say somewhere in my record that I already called a few hours back with the same request? I think if I were running the company I would track these things so I didn't have to pay people to answer the same questions over and over for the same people.
#6
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I have suggestion, if you are worry they track your call... stop calling..
#7
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Not worried... just curious. It's never stopped me before.
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Originally Posted by sftrvlr
Repeat after me:
"If at first you don't succeed, hang up and call again ..."
"If at first you don't succeed, hang up and call again ..."
"If that fails, give up. No use making a damned fool of yourself."
#9
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Everyone has their own idea of what fair is and that's why we have rules. In your situation, you are asking for someone at MP to break (or maybe bend) a rule to suit you. Considering your situation, you may find a sympathetic ear if you call again.
As my tennis coach used to say: sometimes the ball bounces in your favor and sometimes it doesn't. But you hit it, so live with it.
As my tennis coach used to say: sometimes the ball bounces in your favor and sometimes it doesn't. But you hit it, so live with it.
#10
Join Date: Feb 2005
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I think it is totally unfair but DAHGUY makes a lot sense below -- Good philosphy ^
Originally Posted by dahguy
There are lots of things in life that are not fair. Will this wrinkle matter 5 years from now? Will it matter 3 months form now? You have to decide how much energy you want to give it. A little tenacity then move on - that's my philosophy.
#11
Join Date: Aug 2005
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My answer is "probably not".
If they track this, then they will need a huge database to annotate every pax request.
If they track this, then they will need a huge database to annotate every pax request.
Originally Posted by uaflyer15
Does anyone know if they track such requests? I.e. if I do call back again (which I intend to do) will it not say somewhere in my record that I already called a few hours back with the same request? I think if I were running the company I would track these things so I didn't have to pay people to answer the same questions over and over for the same people.
#12

Join Date: Apr 2005
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They don't seems to keep note of a lot of things these days.
On another line, I called a few weeks ago to make an award reservation with Aeromar, which is a UA partner. When I called the agent asked a supervisor and they both didn't knew I could redeem on Aeromar so the agent asked me to call again in a few hours when MP would be open. I hang up, call back maybe 45 minutes later, same agent! I didn't recognized her, but when I asked the same question again, she said "You called before, do you remember, I asked you to call back in 3 hours"
On another line, I called a few weeks ago to make an award reservation with Aeromar, which is a UA partner. When I called the agent asked a supervisor and they both didn't knew I could redeem on Aeromar so the agent asked me to call again in a few hours when MP would be open. I hang up, call back maybe 45 minutes later, same agent! I didn't recognized her, but when I asked the same question again, she said "You called before, do you remember, I asked you to call back in 3 hours"

