Upgrades - Lack of?
#1
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Upgrades - Lack of?
Question -
I was on the 22:10 1/17 GRU-ORD flight and saw something interesting. There were about 5 open seats in Biz w/ 2 open in FC. Didn't see anybody upgraded to fill those seats, yet I knew of at least 4 other 1K's on the flight besides myself. I was in 16F on a 763, so my situation was great, but I'm curious as to what is the process is for awarding an upgrade to loyal customers when seats are empty?
Thanks,
Jim
I was on the 22:10 1/17 GRU-ORD flight and saw something interesting. There were about 5 open seats in Biz w/ 2 open in FC. Didn't see anybody upgraded to fill those seats, yet I knew of at least 4 other 1K's on the flight besides myself. I was in 16F on a 763, so my situation was great, but I'm curious as to what is the process is for awarding an upgrade to loyal customers when seats are empty?
Thanks,
Jim
#2




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Many will echo these comments, but UA rarely gives out free upgrades even if there are open seats in F/C. The only time this might happen is if they need to free up seats due to there being more passengers checked into one cabin than there are actual seats.
In 4+ years of flying I've received one op-up from Business to First on HKG-NRT. I was on an Economy ticket that was upgraded using a SWU. When I checked in I was given a C BP, but when I arrived at the gate they had an F one waiting for me.
The saying here goes, if you want an upgrade a)buy the ticket b)use miles to upgrade or c)use a SWU, CR1, or 500's. Never expect any freebies.
In 4+ years of flying I've received one op-up from Business to First on HKG-NRT. I was on an Economy ticket that was upgraded using a SWU. When I checked in I was given a C BP, but when I arrived at the gate they had an F one waiting for me.
The saying here goes, if you want an upgrade a)buy the ticket b)use miles to upgrade or c)use a SWU, CR1, or 500's. Never expect any freebies.
#3
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Elites are more likely to get op-ups when Y is over-sold. Otherwise, United rarely gives complimentary upgrades.
#4

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No free upgrades. SIN-HKG with 2 other UGS's (all in C). Nobody was in F, but still no "free" upgrades for us. Not really an issue as only about 6 people in C on the lower deck.
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Originally Posted by otterkg77
Question -
I was on the 22:10 1/17 GRU-ORD flight and saw something interesting. There were about 5 open seats in Biz w/ 2 open in FC. Didn't see anybody upgraded to fill those seats, yet I knew of at least 4 other 1K's on the flight besides myself. I was in 16F on a 763, so my situation was great, but I'm curious as to what is the process is for awarding an upgrade to loyal customers when seats are empty?
Thanks,
Jim
I was on the 22:10 1/17 GRU-ORD flight and saw something interesting. There were about 5 open seats in Biz w/ 2 open in FC. Didn't see anybody upgraded to fill those seats, yet I knew of at least 4 other 1K's on the flight besides myself. I was in 16F on a 763, so my situation was great, but I'm curious as to what is the process is for awarding an upgrade to loyal customers when seats are empty?
Thanks,
Jim
#6
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Rhyme or reason to op ups?
Within the last month I watched more than a half dozen people get op'd up from coach to first on the ORD-EZE route, while I was sitting in business. I am only a 1K so maybe there were GS in coach, but if there were why didn't they upgrade to business earlier? I checked the manifest on the first flight and there were no GS in business and as a 1K I was in the minority. Either they were all op-up'd prior to boarding and weren't part of the shuffle I saw or there weren't any in business.
I know you can't tell a GS by their appearance, but I don't think all the double op ups were GS. How does United pick who to op-up and why would they pass over the 1Ks in business (even if they used SWUs) and give double op-ups when the flight is ahead of schedule and there is no rush?
I know you can't tell a GS by their appearance, but I don't think all the double op ups were GS. How does United pick who to op-up and why would they pass over the 1Ks in business (even if they used SWUs) and give double op-ups when the flight is ahead of schedule and there is no rush?
#7
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Originally Posted by SMF Rider
*snip* I checked the manifest on the first flight and there were no GS in business and as a 1K I was in the minority. *snip*
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Originally Posted by dismal_scientist
How does one check the manifest. Was it sitting out?
#9
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Originally Posted by SMF Rider
yes. It was taped on the wall, in plain view for those waiting for the lav. I quickly looked at it to get the status totals for business class.
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Originally Posted by dismal_scientist
Cool. I'll have to look for that on my next flight here in 70 minutes.
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Originally Posted by otterkg77
Question -
I was on the 22:10 1/17 GRU-ORD flight and saw something interesting. There were about 5 open seats in Biz w/ 2 open in FC. Didn't see anybody upgraded to fill those seats, yet I knew of at least 4 other 1K's on the flight besides myself. I was in 16F on a 763, so my situation was great, but I'm curious as to what is the process is for awarding an upgrade to loyal customers when seats are empty?
Thanks,
Jim
I was on the 22:10 1/17 GRU-ORD flight and saw something interesting. There were about 5 open seats in Biz w/ 2 open in FC. Didn't see anybody upgraded to fill those seats, yet I knew of at least 4 other 1K's on the flight besides myself. I was in 16F on a 763, so my situation was great, but I'm curious as to what is the process is for awarding an upgrade to loyal customers when seats are empty?
Thanks,
Jim
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Originally Posted by BenjaminNYC
If those 1K's didn't offer certificates or miles to upgrade, why should they be upgraded? 

(But I was lucky last weekend and got Y->NC->NF ORD-CDG and back.
)
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Originally Posted by iluv2fly
I agree.
(But I was lucky last weekend and got Y->NC->NF ORD-CDG and back.
)
(But I was lucky last weekend and got Y->NC->NF ORD-CDG and back.
)
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Originally Posted by BenjaminNYC
AND back?!?
At CDG, no less.
Don't you know who I am by now?
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Originally Posted by iluv2fly
AND back!!!
At CDG, no less.
Don't you know who I am by now?
At CDG, no less.
Don't you know who I am by now?

EVERYONE knows who you are!

