Flight cancelled 3 months prior to departure -Please help me with my specific options
#16
Join Date: Jun 2004
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I was just at ORD today and talked to a great CSR rep at the Customer Service counter. There is a huge note that Continental will not accept Mileage Plus tickets from United. The rep's supervisor who came over to help couldn't believe it and called her supervisor. No dice. They said this is just another example of the terrible, terrible merger (actually Continental taking over United) problems that are occurring. They said they see this on a daily basis.
If they have a beef with the merger, they should discuss it behind closed doors, or come on FT and discuss it on their own time as a representatives of themselves!
#17
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Join Date: Dec 2011
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Thanks for your comment! I just wish I know where to write so that I felt like someone could actually change something. All employees are so apologetic and continually apologize about their worthless company. It makes their jobs so much harder. They are just powerless to do anything.
The real question is what about my return flight???? In the future, will they also cancel or change that one also so I will not be able to return home on a timely basis??? What is the purpose of a "confirmed" reservation???
The real question is what about my return flight???? In the future, will they also cancel or change that one also so I will not be able to return home on a timely basis??? What is the purpose of a "confirmed" reservation???
#18
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Strange question, and I assume the answer is "yes", but have you been ticketed for this trip?
#19
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The same way I order things online, get a confirmation and email that says item is in stock, and then am sent a cncl by the online retailer a few days later saying that they are out of stock and will no longer carry the item, then they refund the purchace price. It stinks, I know, but unless a sales contract is written with a penalty for the seller not being able to provide the product/service, the remedy is a refund.
I've been on your end on retail items before, so I know the frustration, but legally, there is very little action that can be taken on your part. As for the other suggestions, of calling back and trying to work for a solution, I think that is the best option. It often works with retailers on hard products too, they may work with me to substitute a similar item for the same price in the interest of keeping the sale and good relations.
I've been on your end on retail items before, so I know the frustration, but legally, there is very little action that can be taken on your part. As for the other suggestions, of calling back and trying to work for a solution, I think that is the best option. It often works with retailers on hard products too, they may work with me to substitute a similar item for the same price in the interest of keeping the sale and good relations.
Last edited by Mike Jacoubowsky; Dec 13, 2011 at 12:20 am Reason: relevance
#20
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Thanks for your comment! I just wish I know where to write so that I felt like someone could actually change something. All employees are so apologetic and continually apologize about their worthless company. It makes their jobs so much harder. They are just powerless to do anything.
The real question is what about my return flight???? In the future, will they also cancel or change that one also so I will not be able to return home on a timely basis??? What is the purpose of a "confirmed" reservation???
The real question is what about my return flight???? In the future, will they also cancel or change that one also so I will not be able to return home on a timely basis??? What is the purpose of a "confirmed" reservation???
#21
Join Date: Apr 2010
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Question?
Have you thought about cancelling the whole itinerary and remaking it using miles for both the new co 737 and the return? I only ask because i see those all the time where in the linear fare basis on the e-ticket shows "valid co/ua only" instead of just "valid ua only" where yours might be... Especially working here out at CLE. I also see AC thrown into the mix because i work the jazz flights in and out so i know rewards and miles are valid for use on the *A partner flights but they have to be booked that way for it to ticket properly... and just to double check did you call UA res deptartment or MP res to try to switch the tickets?
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#22
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Join Date: Jul 2002
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I was just at ORD today and talked to a great CSR rep at the Customer Service counter. There is a huge note that Continental will not accept Mileage Plus tickets from United. The rep's supervisor who came over to help couldn't believe it and called her supervisor. No dice.
You're not asking CO to accept a MP ticket. You are asking for your UA miles to be used on a CO flight.
There is a big difference between the two.
For goodness sakes, I can go on United.com and book award travel on a CO ticket right now.
#23
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This makes absolutely no sense. I think you're asking for the wrong thing. Who did you talk to at ORD?
You're not asking CO to accept a MP ticket. You are asking for your UA miles to be used on a CO flight.
There is a big difference between the two.
For goodness sakes, I can go on United.com and book award travel on a CO ticket right now.
You're not asking CO to accept a MP ticket. You are asking for your UA miles to be used on a CO flight.
There is a big difference between the two.
For goodness sakes, I can go on United.com and book award travel on a CO ticket right now.
#24
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I'd guess it's due to the more restrictive change rules for UA compared to CO. I believe CO lets you change routing and even carriers, but UA has to be same routing/carrier. Although you'd think there'd be some latitude, given that UA and CO are now under a single operating certificate...
#25
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My advice to miamihoosier is to request a full refund of MP miles, link OP and MP accounts, transfer the miles, and then re-book the family vacation on continental.com with OP miles.
Any reservation made with MP is going to be a gigantic pain next year once the MP reservation system ceases to exist for new bookings, since it is pretty apparent that OP's system will be used going forward. (Plus the OP website is just plain better to use.)
We'll leave out of the discussion that ORD-RSW is a trip FTers would take as a revenue flight and 100k should be spent on a J class TATL award.
Any reservation made with MP is going to be a gigantic pain next year once the MP reservation system ceases to exist for new bookings, since it is pretty apparent that OP's system will be used going forward. (Plus the OP website is just plain better to use.)
We'll leave out of the discussion that ORD-RSW is a trip FTers would take as a revenue flight and 100k should be spent on a J class TATL award.
Last edited by Joshua; Dec 13, 2011 at 12:42 pm Reason: I can't count
#26
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Lots doesn't add up
1. Threat of lawsuit - Non-starter. Not only is there no case, but if you read the t&c, you will see that all UA has to do is cancel and refund your payment (miles). Also, as soon as you start threatening, you lose any chance of help.
2. All employees are complaining - They aren't. And, even if they are, what has that got to do with getting your kids to Disney.
3. Call UA back and start with, "I have a problem and I need your help." Don't be accusatory or entitled. Explain the problem regarding flexibility on dates because the kids are in school. Ask what options there are (CO, other airports, etc). If the CO miles problem is raised, ask them to cancel, transfer miles and rebook on CO (also ask them to hold the seats on CO so you don't lose them while all of this takes place).
4. If you don't get anywhere, politely ask to speak with a supervisor and start again with "I need help." Don't bash the line employee. If that doesn't seem helpful, politely hang up, call back and start again.
2. All employees are complaining - They aren't. And, even if they are, what has that got to do with getting your kids to Disney.
3. Call UA back and start with, "I have a problem and I need your help." Don't be accusatory or entitled. Explain the problem regarding flexibility on dates because the kids are in school. Ask what options there are (CO, other airports, etc). If the CO miles problem is raised, ask them to cancel, transfer miles and rebook on CO (also ask them to hold the seats on CO so you don't lose them while all of this takes place).
4. If you don't get anywhere, politely ask to speak with a supervisor and start again with "I need help." Don't bash the line employee. If that doesn't seem helpful, politely hang up, call back and start again.
#27
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Join Date: Dec 2011
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I guess the bottom line is Continental will not accept United Mileage Plus miles for travel on Continental. Fact as of 12-13-2011. I simply ask for them to transfer my tickets to the Continental. No way, no how. Some of you who are saying you work for United, go look on reservations and see of you can find a way to get them accepted. I would be very greatful. Many agents have tried, none have succeeded. The reason I don't simply ask for a refund is there are no tickets available at this date for a reasonable price relative to using my Mileage Plus tickets. I bought these ticket almost nine months ago. I truely have been very nice to everyone I have talked to. I have never raised my voice. I have ask a lot of questions. I have gotten nowhere. Certainly frustrating. I only mention small claims court, because I have gotten no where with this problem. I really think United should be somehow financially liable when they caused the problem and have made no effort to correct it. As far as I can tell, if they make me fly two days early, they should be responsible for two days of hotel and food. I had a confirmed reservation and they made the change. They should pay for the difference. How is that unreasonable?
#28
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As already mentioned
Link your UA and Continental Account
Transfer the miles from your UA to your Continental Account
Book the trip using the miles you just transferred into your Continental Account.
You are seriously making this way more difficult than it needs to be.
Even if you don't do that, you can redeem United Miles for a Star Alliance award for Continental.
Link your UA and Continental Account
Transfer the miles from your UA to your Continental Account
Book the trip using the miles you just transferred into your Continental Account.
You are seriously making this way more difficult than it needs to be.
Even if you don't do that, you can redeem United Miles for a Star Alliance award for Continental.
#29
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Raleigh
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I guess the bottom line is Continental will not accept United Mileage Plus miles for travel on Continental. Fact as of 12-13-2011. I simply ask for them to transfer my tickets to the Continental. No way, no how. Some of you who are saying you work for United, go look on reservations and see of you can find a way to get them accepted. I would be very greatful. Many agents have tried, none have succeeded. The reason I don't simply ask for a refund is there are no tickets available at this date for a reasonable price relative to using my Mileage Plus tickets. I bought these ticket almost nine months ago. I truely have been very nice to everyone I have talked to. I have never raised my voice. I have ask a lot of questions. I have gotten nowhere. Certainly frustrating. I only mention small claims court, because I have gotten no where with this problem. I really think United should be somehow financially liable when they caused the problem and have made no effort to correct it. As far as I can tell, if they make me fly two days early, they should be responsible for two days of hotel and food. I had a confirmed reservation and they made the change. They should pay for the difference. How is that unreasonable?
By the time (a few weeks later) the return got discombobulated for the same reason, the policy must have changed, because there was absolutely no flexibility to move my UAL XY reservation onto CO, despite the fact that the merger was clearly responsible for the changes in schedule. And yes, I called back multiple times (3 I think) with a very humble (sometimes I try naive) approach.
#30
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Join Date: Dec 2011
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SAN 1K,
That's exactly what I'm experiencing! As hard as it is for everyone to believe, I can find not a single agent who is able to link or transfer my miles so I can travel on Continental. There is even a note in Apollo, an agent showed it to me, which specifically says that Continental is not accepting any United Mileage Plus mileage tickets at this time. I spent almost two hours talking with several agents in the B consourse under the Dinosaur on Monday night. They all took a shot at fixing my problem. No luck. You all are correct. This is so simple. Put me on the Continental flight and problem solved. It's just not happening. Why am I upset? I purchased four tickets, all seated together, for my family to travel on March 23rd. I want to travel on March 23rd. It's that simple.
That's exactly what I'm experiencing! As hard as it is for everyone to believe, I can find not a single agent who is able to link or transfer my miles so I can travel on Continental. There is even a note in Apollo, an agent showed it to me, which specifically says that Continental is not accepting any United Mileage Plus mileage tickets at this time. I spent almost two hours talking with several agents in the B consourse under the Dinosaur on Monday night. They all took a shot at fixing my problem. No luck. You all are correct. This is so simple. Put me on the Continental flight and problem solved. It's just not happening. Why am I upset? I purchased four tickets, all seated together, for my family to travel on March 23rd. I want to travel on March 23rd. It's that simple.