Join Us: 1K/GS Seeking to Move to AA and Have Executive Platinum Status Matched
Nov 17, 2010, 1:29 pm
#31
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: IAH
Programs: United 1K - AA EXP - Avis CC - Hertz Plat - Hyatt Diamond - SPG Plat
Posts: 212
Do you guys mind if a CO Plat joins in? I have been contemplating a switch to AA for a couple months now.
Nov 17, 2010, 1:35 pm
#32
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Austin, TX
Programs: AA LT Plat, UA 1k/1mm+, National EE, IC Plat, Bonvoy Gold
Posts: 2,605
Individually, we have no chance. But, as a large group of 1K and GSs, we might have a shot. Delta never matched anyone to Platinum in the past, but when they merged with Northwest, they offered Platinum match exclusively to CO Plats. It's the perfect time for AA to poach top level elites from UA right now and we have a good shot if we ask as a group, especially as top level elites from a major competitor promising to give all of our business to AA.
Nov 17, 2010, 1:47 pm
#33
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: USA
Programs: AA LT Plat, UA LT Gold, HH Diamond, Marriott LT Gold
Posts: 956
Not unless you are an AA insider, I support the group's move to collectively seek status match to Exp Plat. Revenue wise, AA will be getting top elites flyters from its competitor and should be a factor for AA to consider the request. Also, I am not sure if it was already mentioned here but as a benefit of Exec Plat, you have access to the Flagship Lounge when travelling to Asia, Europe and South America regardless of your booking class. UA does not do that to their 1K customers. Goodluck!
Nov 17, 2010, 1:51 pm
#34
Formerly known as fsa_ea
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Up in the Air
Programs: UA GS/1MM,AS 75k,NK GLD,AA 2MM,DL 2MM,LH FT,AY PLT,IC RA,FMT LT PLT,HYT GLB,HLT DIA,MRT GLD,HRTZ PC
Posts: 2,229
I certainly hope AA has enough sense not to approve this. When other people have switched to AA over the years, they had to earn EXP. Why should AA now hand it our for nothing?
Nov 17, 2010, 1:53 pm
#35
A FlyerTalk Posting Legend
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: GVA (Greater Vancouver Area)
Programs: DREAD Gold; UA 1.035MM; Bonvoy Au-197; PCC Elite+; CCC Elite+; MSC C-12; CWC Au-197; WoH Dis
Posts: 52,140
The AA route map is practically non-existant out of SFO, so we're captive to UA. We may well severely reduce our travel, but switching is just not an option.
Nov 17, 2010, 1:56 pm
#36
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: US
Programs: AA/UA/DL
Posts: 2,773
That's why CO elites in IAH feel this company is the best in the universe although CO didn't have SWUs before.
Some people have choices and some people don't.
I am glad that I have.
Nov 17, 2010, 1:59 pm
#37
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: SNA
Programs: UA 1K, Marriott/SPG Plat
Posts: 187
Full disclosure: I'm actually an AA shareholder so darn it they'd better consider for the good of the company
Nov 17, 2010, 1:59 pm
#38
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: LAX
Programs: DL-PM | UA-1K | HH-Gold
Posts: 938
Count this LAX-based 1K in. I would rather have a stable program.
Nov 17, 2010, 2:00 pm
#39
Join Date: Jul 2004
Programs: AA EXP MM, SPG VIP
Posts: 159
My thought on this is that AA considers UA as its only true peer airline in terms of high-yield travel. That, in conjunction with some strong overlap in markets like ORD and LAX may give them them a slighly different outlook towards doing something like this compared to previous airline mergers.
Nov 17, 2010, 2:07 pm
#40
Formerly known as fsa_ea
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Up in the Air
Programs: UA GS/1MM,AS 75k,NK GLD,AA 2MM,DL 2MM,LH FT,AY PLT,IC RA,FMT LT PLT,HYT GLB,HLT DIA,MRT GLD,HRTZ PC
Posts: 2,229
As an AA EXP and UA 1K, I can tell you that the grass is not necessarily greener on the other side of the fence. Both UA 1K and AA EXP are great elite programs.
As long as UACO keeps E+, I really don't think things are as bad as people think. If UACO does abandon E+, there will undoubtedly be a stampede of people leaving UA for other airlines.
As long as UACO keeps E+, I really don't think things are as bad as people think. If UACO does abandon E+, there will undoubtedly be a stampede of people leaving UA for other airlines.
Nov 17, 2010, 2:14 pm
#41
Join Date: Feb 2008
Programs: UA, 1K
Posts: 156
Great idea, please count the 3 of us in:
uyflyer: 1K, 1MM
ms-uyflyer: 1K, (0.975MM)
uyflyer-jr: 1K
Thanks
uyflyer: 1K, 1MM
ms-uyflyer: 1K, (0.975MM)
uyflyer-jr: 1K
Thanks
Nov 17, 2010, 2:25 pm
#42
Suspended
Join Date: Apr 2009
Programs: AAdvantage Gold
Posts: 1,615
All in All, EXP is just a better program than 1K.
EXP only needs 100 EQS, 1K needs 120 EQS
EXP EQM == BIS, 1K can get EQM bonuses
EXP and 1K both get UDU
EXP is highest priority, 1K is behind GS
EXP gets UDU Y -> J on 3 class AFS flights, 1K doesn't on p.s.
1K gets UDU J -> F on 3 class non-P.S. flights, EXP even better, AA will sell the 3 cabin plane as 2 class and give the J seats to elites for Free, and let EXP UDU to the F cabin.
EXP gets Flagship Lounge Access, 1K doesn't get IFL access
EXP gets 8 SWU, plus 4 more per 50K EQMs, 1K only gets 6, and 2 more per 50K EQMs.
EXP gets cheaper mileage upgrade co-pays to Hawaii, 1K gets hosed on them
1K gets CR-1s, EXP gets more SWUs
EXP gets First Class lounge access on OneWorld Partners, 1K gets relegated to Business Class Lounges on Star Partners
EXP will also get soft landing, 1Ks can go from 1K to nothing
EXP can reach lifetime Platinum in just a few years, with 2MM where all miles count, 1K needs 1MM BIS to reach lifetime 1P, and 3MM BIS for lifetime 1K (more than most people fly in a lifetime).
EXP is the highest tier, 1K is NOT
AAdvantage is just a better program than Mileage Plus, much easier to redeem awards
NGBC may be angled lie-flat, but 2x3x2 on a 772 sure beats 2x4x2
AA also has row 17 of the 767-300, the J cabin of the 772/762 serving as "E+" on domestic routes.
AA also has lie-flat seats in F on the Hawaii Long Hauls out of DFW/ORD
EXP only needs 100 EQS, 1K needs 120 EQS
EXP EQM == BIS, 1K can get EQM bonuses
EXP and 1K both get UDU
EXP is highest priority, 1K is behind GS
EXP gets UDU Y -> J on 3 class AFS flights, 1K doesn't on p.s.
1K gets UDU J -> F on 3 class non-P.S. flights, EXP even better, AA will sell the 3 cabin plane as 2 class and give the J seats to elites for Free, and let EXP UDU to the F cabin.
EXP gets Flagship Lounge Access, 1K doesn't get IFL access
EXP gets 8 SWU, plus 4 more per 50K EQMs, 1K only gets 6, and 2 more per 50K EQMs.
EXP gets cheaper mileage upgrade co-pays to Hawaii, 1K gets hosed on them
1K gets CR-1s, EXP gets more SWUs
EXP gets First Class lounge access on OneWorld Partners, 1K gets relegated to Business Class Lounges on Star Partners
EXP will also get soft landing, 1Ks can go from 1K to nothing
EXP can reach lifetime Platinum in just a few years, with 2MM where all miles count, 1K needs 1MM BIS to reach lifetime 1P, and 3MM BIS for lifetime 1K (more than most people fly in a lifetime).
EXP is the highest tier, 1K is NOT
AAdvantage is just a better program than Mileage Plus, much easier to redeem awards
NGBC may be angled lie-flat, but 2x3x2 on a 772 sure beats 2x4x2
AA also has row 17 of the 767-300, the J cabin of the 772/762 serving as "E+" on domestic routes.
AA also has lie-flat seats in F on the Hawaii Long Hauls out of DFW/ORD
Nov 17, 2010, 2:52 pm
#43
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Always on the move
Programs: Something lifetime here and there
Posts: 1,867
Might consider this
I am interested in this possibility, but would like to wait and see what the rest of the new UA program i(especially around lifetime status, earning it and the Global Services renewal for 2011). As a former EXP and PLAT lifetime, along with AA's expansion in and out of LAX, I would definitely look at this.
I have several other people of mine that I need to consider this as well before jumping in with both feet on this as well.
I have several other people of mine that I need to consider this as well before jumping in with both feet on this as well.
Nov 17, 2010, 3:02 pm
#44
Join Date: Sep 2009
Programs: UA GS>1K>Nothing; DL DM 2MM; AS 75K>Nothing>MVP
Posts: 9,341
I'd certainly consider this switch if and when AA offered flat bed seats in int'l business. Seatguru says there are no seats like that now, please let me know if that is incorrect.
Until then, I expect to use foreign carriers on routes where UA doesn't have flat bed seats or competitive Z fares.
Happy to give AA my domestic business just to make a point, even if it means some rides on MD80s
Until then, I expect to use foreign carriers on routes where UA doesn't have flat bed seats or competitive Z fares.
Happy to give AA my domestic business just to make a point, even if it means some rides on MD80s