That is concise and to the point...

Some of us have, therefore, reasoned that if we can 'impregnate' this void with our wishful thinking, it might make the UACO management pause to consider how much E+ means to a large swath of their customer base, thereby tipping the balance toward sparing it...

I expected this kind of response, although I clearly pointed out triple 7:confused:

Then there was really no point to your claim at all because, as pointed out, UA does offer a much better C product for most of the longest segments of its TPAC route.

Program GREAT until EQS Change
 

I called MP and suggested they keep existing 100 segment qualification for existing 1K's...seems they have been hearing a lot of that.

I love MP and I am so disapointed that my 10 year run of 100 segments per year will no longer get me 1K status

I feel your pain and here's 'semi-quantitatively' why: Last year I had just over 150K EQM and ~60 EQS, for a EQM to EQS ratio of about 2.5K. This year so far I have ~110K EQM and ~47 EQS for about the same EQM to EQS ratio. Therefore, one's travel pattern might be considered to be pretty constant from year to year. At my rate of EQM/EQS accumulation, if I were required to fly the equivalent of 20 more EQS, this would be like doing 20 EQS * ~2.5K EQM/EQS = ~50K EQM more. So, essentially, the new 1K EQS rule is roughly equivalent to asking someone with my traveling pattern to accumulate 150K EQM to requalify. Thus, rather than planning to spend 145K of my RDMs to travel in style in XF to watch fireworks in PVG at year's end, I would now still be planning MRs to try to requalify my 1K!

So, I feel your pain...

So you're allowed to do that, but sapguy is not? That's probably the most arrogant statement I've ever heard.

Nobody has any information. Any statements are speculation, and any decisions people are making are based on nonexistent and incomplete data. Feel free to do that if you like, but don't tell others they can't do the same.

+1. Given the announced downgrades, we're desperately afraid that United will dump E+, which would seem to be a big, huge deal to all of us. If they dump E+, why would I stay with UA? I'm a happy 1K now, but dAArkness calls...

Since it seems pretty clear that UA management is not soliciting the input of its most frequent customers or front line employees in these program changes, it is very important that all of us make our preferences heard. Without this input -- about what we value most about the existing MP program such as E+, existing upgrade earning ability, etc. -- UA senior managment will continue to stumble. Its far easier to make better informed decisions using this input than to rescind unpopular changes after they are announced.

The only way UA will listen is if they see a mass EXODUS of 1ks going to DL or AA. CAL does not care about their elites and I have a few friends who are CAL Platnium FF and they are fed up. Some of them have now realized my wisdom and will now fly AA for Long Haul and DL for TransPac. The reason I say CAL is because those goons will be running UA and their stingy ways is already on display based on what UA is now planning to do for 2011.

I will continue to fly UA and maintain Pre-Exec so that I can keep my Star Gold status but that's about it. I like AA and I'm 100% in upgrades from Y to C and that's on 13 flights this year; by far the most I have flown domestically in over 7 years.

I agree, they have the numbers/stats, in fact all the information they need to make the decisions they have and only a massive, immediate reduction in bookings will make them think twice. I have never flown continental in any shape, form, or manner, but I know plenty of people that have done it TATL and TPAC just the once - which speaks volumes, but I digress. Even though we are "elite" flyers, it is coming home to us about how just not "elite" we really think we are. United does have one of the better products out there, especially for me that goes LHR-SFO and occasionally LHR-SYD, but I am under no illusion that it has started to become a death by a thousand cuts. Just a lot of little things and it also seems to me that the ground staff, with a few exceptions of course, are becoming more surly, and more like a LCC even to "elites".

And I shall say it one more time - as soon as they start to moot a name change from "1K" then I think we are scuppered.

One of my queries is how in 2011 the programs will work in terms of systemwide upgrade redemption on the other carrier once you earn them (can you use CO systemwides on UA flights and vice versa before 2012?). In 2010 I will do 160k on UA and 110k on CO so I earn systemwides on both. What if I qualify on both in 2011 during the year - do I get separate systemwides deposited? It is an interesting question in which program to accrue - and in what balance - during 2011.

What we know:
The FF programs will continue to operate separately, just as they now do, throughout 2011, and then on 12/31/2011 the miles and other "earnings" from the two programs will be combined. If it is a straight linear combination, then you just add up all your UA and CO miles, SWUs and other "earnings" to come up with your total for the year...

A possible consequence:
An interesting situation comes to mind: If you get 100K UA and 100K CO EQMs, you would receive 6 and 4 SWUs, respectively, for a total of 10 SWUs. HOWEVER, after they combine your UA and CO miles, you will wind up with at least 200K EQMs, which, under UA rules, would entitle you to at least 4 more SWUs (2 for every 50K EQMs after 100K). Assuming a straight "linear combination of the programs" and that UA SWU earning rule prevails, folks with at least 100K CO and 100K UA EQMs can wind up with tons of SWUs (14 or more)!

My husband and I are both 1Ks and we just flew Continental from Japan to Palau through Guam. Continental was uniformly unimpressed with our status on United.

Meaning that you didn't receive listing for EUA, the 3x70# baggage allowance and lounge access as promised by your status? Or something else?

Were you able to get aisle-seat exit row coach, if you weren't flying biz-class ?