Originally Posted by lainys (Post 15208896)

I'm with the camp that prefers to get their SWUs Jan-Jan. Crediting in Nov/Dec (when I usually requalify) is less beneficial to me. I would also be in favour of spreading out our SWU crediting similar to the current CR1 system. 1 or 2 SWUs per 25,000 BIS UA miles means no major push to use all SWUs at the end of next year and also be a soft landing for those that won't / can't re-qualify as 1K the following year.

Originally Posted by mikel51 (Post 15208783)

Of course then you would lose all the benefits of UDU, early boarding, economy plus, etc. etc.

Originally Posted by Mike Jacoubowsky (Post 15208855)

Aside from that, an even 1 segment to 1000 mile ratio seems pretty reasonable. How did UA come up with something slightly-different in the first place?

Originally Posted by transpac (Post 15208737)

Expanding the "fairness" discussion I guess one would say that 1P, 2Ps should get some fraction of 1K benefits, like 1 or 2 SWU's and 2 or 3 CR-1's? That would remove any irregularity or unevenness.

As a 1K I love being the "teacher's pet".

Apologies if I come across as overly pedantic, or strident.

Originally Posted by transpac (Post 15208962)

You remove your MP # from the record after taking advantage of all the perks. ;) It can be challenging, but it is done by many who want to decide later which program to credit the miles toward.

Originally Posted by lainys (Post 15204942)

The bonus + for switching to AA would be that I would not need to do 100k BIS miles as I heard that credit card spending (on AA citicard) would count towards EXP.

Originally Posted by boolean64 (Post 15201767)

TThe bigger deal was that if CO gave out 8 CR-1s, their revenue model would break. Too many plats that would ormally buy YBM fares to get the confirmed upgrade would now just buy the cheapest fare and upgrade. Four RTs per plat where you lost several hundred dollars of revenue would be a problem. But they couldn't take CR-1s away completely, so this is how they made the compromise.

Originally Posted by Beerman92 (Post 15209094)

I'm no expert but I don't believe this is true. Credit card spending does not count towards annual elite status. It does count towards lifetime miles I think (so to earn 1MM flyer, etc.).

Originally Posted by fastair (Post 15208510)

Remember, 2 sides to any argument. Many have posted that UA is attacking, discriminating against/penalizing the 1K who gets it on segments. So why should the 1k on segments be the anomaly to all the other people who get 1P, and 2P on segments, which is in the 30/25k miles ratio per tier? It was fair to use that method for everyone up until this point where the 1k on segments had an exception to the ratio, now they fit the exact pattern that others have, and it is somehow unfair to them? This logic defies logic. They are standardizing everyone, eliminating an outlier to the standard formula, and it is somehow unfair. Look at "fair" in the dictionary, one of the uses is "without irregularity or unevenness". It seems to me that it was unfair to some before, but now fits the definition.

That doesn't mean that it doesn't feel good when you are given irregular treatment and it benefits you (i.e. teacher's pet) and then you get a new situation where equality is practiced (new grade, new teacher, no pets.) Anytime an advantage is taken away, it feels bad, but that doesn't make it unfair, discriminatory, or being picked on. I hear your pain, but it isn't anything irrational or unfair, it's just that change, even evolution, doesn't always benefit everyone equally.

Originally Posted by c1mth0g (Post 15205450)

I suppose the one difference is still on p.s. flights. Since UDU don't apply to these, CR1 are still useful even for upgrades at the gate.

Originally Posted by LarkSFO (Post 15209486)

Fastair: Just drop it... You are right. It is fair. But that does not mean people can't keep complaining!

And most people (EQM 1K's) don't care... To prove this point, one of the 1K segment runners should begin a thread: "Join me, I am mad as H___ at UA for increasing 1K qualification from 100 EQS to 120 EQS!" Rather than hundreds of posts and 50,000+ (Wow!) thread views like this one, I think it would quickly wither to the fourth page in the list of active threads...

Always remember, what do you get when you take the ast out of Fastair?

FAIR!

:)

Originally Posted by LarkSFO (Post 15209486)

Fastair: Just drop it... You are right. It is fair. But that does not mean people can't keep complaining!

And most people (EQM 1K's) don't care... To prove this point, one of the 1K segment runners should begin a thread: "Join me, I am mad as H___ at UA for increasing 1K qualification from 100 EQS to 120 EQS!" Rather than hundreds of posts and 50,000+ (Wow!) thread views like this one, I think it would quickly wither to the fourth page in the list of active threads...

Always remember, what do you get when you take the ast out of Fastair?

FAIR!

:)

Originally Posted by lainys (Post 15209026)

That's ALOT of work to go thru in order to keep ones SWU from crediting until the last minute. I for one don't have the patience to sit thru this exercise nor do I fly enough internationally to want to. However each to their own! :)

Originally Posted by ExCrew (Post 15209932)

Just because you don't have a dog in the fight, does that mean you wouldn't defend the underdog here?
I hope you're not speaking about the FlyerTalk community as a whole here, because quite a few people would take serious issue with your comments.
Your "this doesn't concern me...why should I care?" attitude kind of flies in the face of the reason a lot of us participate in FlyerTalk.