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Old Oct 22, 2009, 9:23 am
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Noticed that when my dad books NRSA travel, C class has been changed to J class. Possible they just changed the letter domination?
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Old Oct 22, 2009, 10:08 am
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Wouldn't it be amusing if UA did this to see how many people on FT admit to checking availability via the award tool?
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Old Oct 22, 2009, 10:17 am
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Originally Posted by unavaca
Wouldn't it be amusing if UA did this to see how many people on FT admit to checking availability via the award tool?
But it doesn't show up only when doing an award booking. You can see it when shopping for paid flights too. It's the last revenue bucket right after G.
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Old Oct 22, 2009, 10:41 am
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It would be helpful, if a CO flier could outline what J on CO is:

Business class? Where does it fit into the current line-up of business class fares?
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Old Oct 22, 2009, 11:36 am
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Originally Posted by wxguy
My understanding from Someone Who Knows is that J will be the new full-fare international business class fare bucket, and C, D, and Z will be increasing discounts from that. Full implementation is expected around November 1.
I don't think so...
There are J class seats on B757-200.
Unless, it means the domestic portion for the international flight.
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Old Oct 22, 2009, 11:42 am
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My question is, how much is the fare for the J class seats?
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Old Oct 22, 2009, 11:45 am
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OMG.. just saw J class taking over C's position on Apollo, with C now next to Z:

[KVS Availability Tool 5.1.2/Diamond - Apollo: Availability/ITN/US-MYP]
Code:
HKG  Hong Kong Int'l HK [VHHH]
ORD  Chicago O'Hare Int'l IL US [KORD]
MON  09 Nov 2009

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  -----------------------------------------------------------
UA         896     HKG   11:40     ORD   11:41     744  0   F9 J9 D0 Y7 B7 M7 H7 Q7 V7 W0 S0 T0 L0 K0 G0 A0 C9 Z0 E0 U0
But J is listed before C for p.s. and other domestic, "3-cabin" flights:

[KVS Availability Tool 5.1.2/Diamond - Apollo: Availability/ITN/US-MYP]
Code:
JFK  New York John F Kennedy Int'l NY US [KJFK]
SFO  San Francisco Int'l CA US [KSFO]
MON  09 Nov 2009

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  -----------------------------------------------------------
UA         5       JFK   06:00     SFO   09:44     757  0   F9 J9 C9 Y9 B9 M9 E9 U9 H9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T0 L0 K9 G0 A9 D9 Z9
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Old Oct 22, 2009, 11:48 am
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Originally Posted by cesco.g
It would be helpful, if a CO flier could outline what J on CO is:

Business class? Where does it fit into the current line-up of business class fares?
From looking at a few samples in ExpertFlyer of CO premium fares on international flights... J is the highest possible fare (there is no F), then it goes C, D, Z, but in the samples I chose I noticed that the C & D fares were always exactly the same price (is C a new fare class on CO? Maybe they added C like UA added J).

From ExpertFlyer... a sample of CO availability on an IAH-NRT flight:
J9 C9 D9 Z0 Y9 B9 M9 H9 K9 Q9 U9 V9 G9 W9 E9 S9 T9 N9 L9
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Old Oct 22, 2009, 11:52 am
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Originally Posted by cesco.g
It would be helpful, if a CO flier could outline what J on CO is:

Business class? Where does it fit into the current line-up of business class fares?
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/6719389-post13.html
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Old Oct 22, 2009, 11:55 am
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Originally Posted by SEA1K4EVR
From looking at a few samples in ExpertFlyer of CO premium fares on international flights... J is the highest possible fare (there is no F), then it goes C, D, Z, but in the samples I chose I noticed that the C & D fares were always exactly the same price (is C a new fare class on CO? Maybe they added C like UA added J).

From ExpertFlyer... a sample of CO availability on an IAH-NRT flight:
J9 C9 D9 Z0 Y9 B9 M9 H9 K9 Q9 U9 V9 G9 W9 E9 S9 T9 N9 L9

The other thing is that from ABACUS, *Alliance is updating their booking code.
Maybe it relates to this.
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Old Oct 22, 2009, 11:58 am
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Obviously J is the wave of the future... so will NC & XC soon be replaced by NJ & XJ?
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Old Oct 22, 2009, 12:05 pm
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United.com updated to include J class:

United and United Express Booking Class Purchased (EQM*) Redeemable
Miles**

First (F A) 150% 150%

Business (J C D) 150% 125%

Business Discounted (Z) 150% 100%

Full-fare Economy (Y B) 150% 100%

Other Economy fares (E M U H Q V W S T K L) 100% 100%

http://www.united.com/page/article/0,6722,1177,00.html

Probably updated in many other places too. Did LH have J class before? They do now: F7 A7 J9 C9 D9 Z9 Y9 B9 M9 H9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 That's a SEA-FRA flight in January.
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Old Oct 22, 2009, 12:12 pm
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No more P, I guess.
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Old Oct 22, 2009, 12:21 pm
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J is also quite common on other airlines, like VS. Their business-only top fare has always been J, then D, then Z. I wonder if J was commonly used on airlines which had business-only fleets, no First?
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Old Oct 22, 2009, 12:40 pm
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Lufthansa introduced booking class "J" 1 year ago as one class above "C" and the fares are ca. 10-12% higher in J compared to C.
The reason LH gave for the introduction of the class above C is to have a booking class for tickets where other segments are on competitors such as BA IIRC.

I always thought that is what "C" was for. Now they need a class above full fare Business Class.
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