new J (business) booking class shows up
Oct 22, 2009, 4:35 am
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new J (business) booking class shows up
was just checking NC space on some itineraries and saw J booking class for the first time. does this have something to do with Continental compatibility?
weird.
weird.
Oct 22, 2009, 5:17 am
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The sudden appearance of J is the reaosn I've just logged into Ft now - what is J all about?
I was watching a flight with C5D5Z0 XC0 NC0 - now it has C5D2Z0 J5 XC0 NC0.
The placing of J in the fare list suggests award seats? But not upgrade (or else my request should be clearing).
But to make 5 awards available with only C5?
Flight is 2-3 weeks away.
I was watching a flight with C5D5Z0 XC0 NC0 - now it has C5D2Z0 J5 XC0 NC0.
The placing of J in the fare list suggests award seats? But not upgrade (or else my request should be clearing).
But to make 5 awards available with only C5?
Flight is 2-3 weeks away.
Oct 22, 2009, 5:44 am
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I checked a bunch of random flights on various dates and various routes - and C and J numbers are always identical.
So my bet would be on the CO compatibility as well, with C and J being the same.
So my bet would be on the CO compatibility as well, with C and J being the same.
Oct 22, 2009, 5:48 am
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Yes, I also checked a few, and found C always same as J, which would support the idea of 2 names (UA/CO) for the same fare.
Odd that it appears near XC & NC in the fare codes under flight info though.
Odd that it appears near XC & NC in the fare codes under flight info though.
Oct 22, 2009, 6:52 am
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My understanding from Someone Who Knows is that J will be the new full-fare international business class fare bucket, and C, D, and Z will be increasing discounts from that. Full implementation is expected around November 1.
Oct 22, 2009, 7:00 am
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That would be retarded, unless it is implemented alliance-wide. For example, on LX, J is super-discounted. On LH it is full fare. On SQ it is super-discounted. Why do they need to confuse everything with this crap?
Oct 22, 2009, 7:29 am
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Not 100% sure what J is on CO, but IIRC this was full-fare business class bucket on DL and some others in SkyTeam, most likely CO too.
Oct 22, 2009, 7:56 am
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Do all of the Coach fare buckets match up? It seems to me that there are lots of difference there, too. I believe E, for example, it a high fare on UA, but an el-cheapo (and non-mileage earning in Europe) fare on LH. And isn't an A fare on AC something different like an award ticket?
Oct 22, 2009, 7:59 am
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Do all of the Coach fare buckets match up? It seems to me that there are lots of difference there, too. I believe E, for example, it a high fare on UA, but an el-cheapo (and non-mileage earning in Europe) fare on LH. And isn't an A fare on AC something different like an award ticket?
Oct 22, 2009, 8:15 am
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I knew that I could count of FT to explain the new J bucket I saw this morning. It is odd that it is sorted among the XC, NF, NY, etc., though.
Oct 22, 2009, 8:15 am
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I have never really been able to figure out why there can't be one single fare bucket code-set industry wide. There are only that many fare buckets and that many alphabets. With so many airlines now in alliances and even more in code sharing partnerships, I think it would be a logical next step...
Oct 22, 2009, 8:32 am
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Oct 22, 2009, 9:01 am
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Saw the J bucket this morning as well. Maybe it's hiding amongst the XC/NC buckets because it's not "live" yet?
I believe J is used by CO for BusinessElite routes.
I believe J is used by CO for BusinessElite routes.
Oct 22, 2009, 9:12 am
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Oct 22, 2009, 9:20 am
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I have never really been able to figure out why there can't be one single fare bucket code-set industry wide. There are only that many fare buckets and that many alphabets. With so many airlines now in alliances and even more in code sharing partnerships, I think it would be a logical next step...
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