United's Unlimited Domestic Upgrades Program (Data through March 18, 2010) [Merged]
Oct 12, 2009, 2:14 pm
#31
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Varies
Programs: Mariott Plat, *wood Plat, Hyatt Diamond, United 1K
Posts: 280
I don't know about this. I'd rather have instruments that i can upgrade when I'm on vacation versus getting upgraded on biz flights that I care little about.
Oct 12, 2009, 2:14 pm
#32
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Chicago 'burbs
Programs: UA 2P, HHonors Diamond, Hertz Gold
Posts: 873
Even as a 1K, I'm going to give this a 
Why? Because it will make it near impossible for a 2P, and possibly even a 1P, to upgrade busy routes. With the e500 system, you would put them towards the flights you preferred. You could also be able to also sponsor a friend with lower status on occasion and have some possibility of getting them a seat. Now, it will be all status fliers. As for Hawaii, except for a lucky few, wouldn't the desire there to upgrade a friend/family member on holiday travel (possible with e500's?). Note likely with the new system...
Also, how many F revenue seats will they lose from 1K's who expect to get upgraded anyway ??
Sadly, while I'm 1K this year and will well timed DEQM/TEQM promos, it's likely I'll be 1K again next year, it's likely I'll reenter the 2P ranks in the future and say farewell to the occasional upgrade.
Why? Because it will make it near impossible for a 2P, and possibly even a 1P, to upgrade busy routes. With the e500 system, you would put them towards the flights you preferred. You could also be able to also sponsor a friend with lower status on occasion and have some possibility of getting them a seat. Now, it will be all status fliers. As for Hawaii, except for a lucky few, wouldn't the desire there to upgrade a friend/family member on holiday travel (possible with e500's?). Note likely with the new system...
Also, how many F revenue seats will they lose from 1K's who expect to get upgraded anyway ??
Sadly, while I'm 1K this year and will well timed DEQM/TEQM promos, it's likely I'll be 1K again next year, it's likely I'll reenter the 2P ranks in the future and say farewell to the occasional upgrade.
Oct 12, 2009, 2:15 pm
#33
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Currently: DCA (+IAD/BWI). Before that: FNL (+DEN/COS). Before that: HVN (+BDL/LGA/EWR/JFK).
Programs: UA 1K, DL Gold, Hertz Five Star, NEXUS, Global Entry
Posts: 626
Doesn't that rather defeat the purpose of DEQMs? I'm a 2K EQMs / 1K BIS this year, too... but I don't see what good introducing another tier would do, other than, as I said, defeat the purpose of DEQMs.
Oct 12, 2009, 2:16 pm
#34
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: A lovely little town filled with cows
Programs: US2, Hyatt Diamond, SPG Plat, Hilton Gold
Posts: 3,284
Who knows - guess we'll have to wait for the official announcement and even then no one will probably know until it's actually implemented several months from now.
At any rate, thank you very much United PR for announcing it here first!
Oct 12, 2009, 2:19 pm
#35
Join Date: Oct 2008
Programs: UA 1K, 1MM
Posts: 504
if we have instruments to use we should still trump complimentary upgrade. If that is the case then I approve. Especially since this is the first year I will probably hit 1k and next year I will probably drop back to 1p or 2p...
Oct 12, 2009, 2:19 pm
#36
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: SFO
Programs: UA 1K MM, Marriott Gold
Posts: 4,768
This is ominous...
Also, what about companions? (although I'm sure it will be addressed in tomorrow's email)
Also, what about companions? (although I'm sure it will be addressed in tomorrow's email)
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Oct 12, 2009, 2:21 pm
#37
Formerly known as fsa_ea
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Up in the Air
Programs: UA GS/1MM,AS 75k,NK GLD,AA 2MM,DL 2MM,LH FT,AY PLT,IC RA,FMT LT PLT,HYT GLB,HLT DIA,MRT GLD,HRTZ PC
Posts: 2,229
Maybe UA will announce they are adopting this policy, too?
Oct 12, 2009, 2:22 pm
#38
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Take a guess
Programs: UA Mileage Plus, Hertz #1 Gold, SPG
Posts: 185
Maybe we can keep instruments, including e500s, to confirm upgrades and use the windows for the automatic upgrades. I'm 1k for 2010 but will drop down to 1p after that. Give me a chance.
Oct 12, 2009, 2:22 pm
#39
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Boston
Programs: UA 1K, SPG
Posts: 1,577
Thank you for the announcement, United PR,
Please keep CR1s. The security of the confirmed upgrade is very comforting, especially over the "battlefield" mentality at the gates of other airlines.
Please keep CR1s. The security of the confirmed upgrade is very comforting, especially over the "battlefield" mentality at the gates of other airlines.
Oct 12, 2009, 2:23 pm
#40
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: San Francisco
Programs: United 2P, QMM, eleVAte
Posts: 231
Unless my travel plans suddenly change and I make 1K, I don't expect to be riding in upgraded F much next year.
I will be curious to see how they work out the "two travelers on one PNR" issues where one flier is elite and the other is not.
I will be curious to see how they work out the "two travelers on one PNR" issues where one flier is elite and the other is not.
Oct 12, 2009, 2:23 pm
#41
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Truth or Consequences, NM
Programs: HH Diamond, Marriott Titanium, Hertz President's Circle, UA Silver, Mobile Passport Unobtanium
Posts: 6,193
Oct 12, 2009, 2:23 pm
#42
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: DFW
Programs: UA MM, QF Plat, Hilton, Hyatt, Marriott
Posts: 2,563
I don't think they have a choice but to match DL on this. Hope they don't though, but if they do, I will fly UA with friends since I don't like the situation of being in a separate cabin than my friend on the same flight. That's why if traveling some place with a friend UA is the default carrier.
Oct 12, 2009, 2:24 pm
#43
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: YVR SFO
Programs: UA G
Posts: 4,866
It would be great if the automatic upgrades (regardless of status) cleared after all instrument upgrades, and only after that, sorted by status. i.e. after the 24hr e500 windows that GMs get.
This gives 1P/2Ps a leg up on 1K's hoping for the automatic upgrade, and still gives UA the opportunity to sell e500s to GMs.
This gives 1P/2Ps a leg up on 1K's hoping for the automatic upgrade, and still gives UA the opportunity to sell e500s to GMs.
Oct 12, 2009, 2:25 pm
#44
Formerly known as fsa_ea
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Up in the Air
Programs: UA GS/1MM,AS 75k,NK GLD,AA 2MM,DL 2MM,LH FT,AY PLT,IC RA,FMT LT PLT,HYT GLB,HLT DIA,MRT GLD,HRTZ PC
Posts: 2,229
I think you will find this is a vewwy vewwy BAD thing. Now, no one has any reason to pick and choose when they want to upgrade. The waitlists will start to look like Delta's. It will be even worse if we don't have CR-1s anymore.
Oct 12, 2009, 2:25 pm
#45
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: RNO
Programs: AS MVP, WN A-List+ UA Silver, HH <>, National EE, WoH Globalist
Posts: 3,769
To a dark place this will lead...