No more widebody jets IAH-EWR?
Mar 7, 2024, 5:30 pm
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No more widebody jets IAH-EWR?
Hi everyone,
I have noticed that for the next few months or so there are no widebody jets scheduled between IAH and EWR. For as long as I can remember, UA (and previously CO) used to operate two or three flights per day on that route with a B767/777/787 equipped with international business class cabins. All of these configurations were superior to domestic F (even in their earlier incarnations).
Now, the best I can find is the 757-200, which is still superior to the domestic F product. But the 767/777/787 are gone. Does anyone know why?
Thank you!
I have noticed that for the next few months or so there are no widebody jets scheduled between IAH and EWR. For as long as I can remember, UA (and previously CO) used to operate two or three flights per day on that route with a B767/777/787 equipped with international business class cabins. All of these configurations were superior to domestic F (even in their earlier incarnations).
Now, the best I can find is the 757-200, which is still superior to the domestic F product. But the 767/777/787 are gone. Does anyone know why?
Thank you!
Mar 7, 2024, 5:32 pm
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Mar 7, 2024, 5:33 pm
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Mar 7, 2024, 5:35 pm
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Mar 7, 2024, 5:37 pm
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Why would they be fired? This is not a trade secret or anything close. Unless the jets have been commandeered for some higher purpose! :-)
Mar 7, 2024, 5:40 pm
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I just booked IAH-EWR-CDG in late October and the 9:35am flight is on the 767-300....yeah. Hopefully that will stay. Scored some free PP (E+) seats due to being PP out of EWR.
Mar 7, 2024, 5:44 pm
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Mar 7, 2024, 5:46 pm
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Mar 7, 2024, 5:50 pm
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Widebodies will be need to the TATL/TPAC summer demand -- UA just announce multiple new widebody routes.
Latest UA New Routes: EWR-RAK, IAH-MDE, NRT-CEB + more EWR-OPO, SFO-ICN, LAX-HKG/PVG
Latest UA New Routes: EWR-RAK, IAH-MDE, NRT-CEB + more EWR-OPO, SFO-ICN, LAX-HKG/PVG
Mar 7, 2024, 6:42 pm
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UA decided there were better places to use them. Putting a bunch of Polaris seats on a relatively short non-redeye route sold as F isn’t particularly good use of those seats.
Mar 7, 2024, 7:16 pm
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The "why" is they built a more efficient schedule for whatever time period you're looking at without one.
Other than the 777HD which does some hub-hub in addition to Hawaii, the hub-hub widebodies are mostly just rotations for utilization: something comes up from deep south america to IAH, then heads to EWR to get some utilization before an early afternoon flight to Europe. They come and go as the schedules change across seasons and the widebodies on a given longhaul route change. Sometimes IAH-IAD has a 8am widebody, sometimes a noon widebody, sometimes none. Sometimes IAH-IAD has a widebody on one flight a day while IAD-IAH has none.
Other than the 777HD which does some hub-hub in addition to Hawaii, the hub-hub widebodies are mostly just rotations for utilization: something comes up from deep south america to IAH, then heads to EWR to get some utilization before an early afternoon flight to Europe. They come and go as the schedules change across seasons and the widebodies on a given longhaul route change. Sometimes IAH-IAD has a 8am widebody, sometimes a noon widebody, sometimes none. Sometimes IAH-IAD has a widebody on one flight a day while IAD-IAH has none.
Mar 10, 2024, 10:59 am
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I miss the old daily 3-class 767 that used to run from EWR-ORD back in ~2016-2018. I still regret not taking that flight and getting to sit up in the Global F suites before they were discontinued. Would've been an easy DCA-EWR-ORD, then ORD-DCA daytime trip.
Nowadays, the biggest aircraft I see between EWR-ORD is the 757.
Nowadays, the biggest aircraft I see between EWR-ORD is the 757.
Mar 10, 2024, 11:28 am
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I miss the old daily 3-class 767 that used to run from EWR-ORD back in ~2016-2018. I still regret not taking that flight and getting to sit up in the Global F suites before they were discontinued. Would've been an easy DCA-EWR-ORD, then ORD-DCA daytime trip.
Nowadays, the biggest aircraft I see between EWR-ORD is the 757.
Nowadays, the biggest aircraft I see between EWR-ORD is the 757.
Mar 10, 2024, 12:13 pm
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I miss the old daily 3-class 767 that used to run from EWR-ORD back in ~2016-2018. I still regret not taking that flight and getting to sit up in the Global F suites before they were discontinued. Would've been an easy DCA-EWR-ORD, then ORD-DCA daytime trip.
Nowadays, the biggest aircraft I see between EWR-ORD is the 757.
Nowadays, the biggest aircraft I see between EWR-ORD is the 757.
Mar 10, 2024, 3:12 pm
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I'm going to try and catch AA's 77W in 3-class F before they also do away with that. Kinda hate the trend of doing away with F for airlines in general—I can understand that F might not get a ton of business/paid traffic, but there was just something special about a 3-cabin setting (and no, not the current J/W/Y configurations we see now).