UA-Schedule changes {Archive}
#2
Join Date: Apr 2009
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#3
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#4
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#6
Join Date: Dec 2004
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#7
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#8
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#9
Join Date: Dec 2019
Location: EWR
Programs: UA 1K, DL DM
Posts: 255
I do business (and look for new businesses) mostly in secondary and tertiary US cities -- can anyone with an insider's understanding of scheduling/route decisions explain to me why United hasn't brought back a number of regional routes from EWR that they previously ran, even during COVID?
I believe EWR direct service to/from XNA was stopped in April 2022 and was slated to come back in late September. But I haven't seen it added back yet in any future month.
PNS was cut as a direct route to/from EWR with COVID. UA also cut the ORD-PNS route in Jan 2021 but it has returned.
I'm using PNS and XNA as examples because both currently have direct service to/from DEN, ORD and IAH but not EWR (and selfishly because I need to travel to both, haha). Should we expect more direct regional routes from EWR if/when the labor shortage eases up? I'm sure profitability also plays a role, but it feels like between the beaches/military bases near PNS and Walmart/Ozarks in XNA, these are decent business-leisure combo destinations which helps demand, am I wrong? Does Terminal A's opening and available UA gates at EWR play a role in this, since so many regional routes used to use the old Terminal A?
Thank in advance for any insider views on whether/when I can expect to see these routes return to the EWR route map...
(Obligatory hopefully the schedule thread is the appropriate place for this question...)
I believe EWR direct service to/from XNA was stopped in April 2022 and was slated to come back in late September. But I haven't seen it added back yet in any future month.
PNS was cut as a direct route to/from EWR with COVID. UA also cut the ORD-PNS route in Jan 2021 but it has returned.
I'm using PNS and XNA as examples because both currently have direct service to/from DEN, ORD and IAH but not EWR (and selfishly because I need to travel to both, haha). Should we expect more direct regional routes from EWR if/when the labor shortage eases up? I'm sure profitability also plays a role, but it feels like between the beaches/military bases near PNS and Walmart/Ozarks in XNA, these are decent business-leisure combo destinations which helps demand, am I wrong? Does Terminal A's opening and available UA gates at EWR play a role in this, since so many regional routes used to use the old Terminal A?
Thank in advance for any insider views on whether/when I can expect to see these routes return to the EWR route map...
(Obligatory hopefully the schedule thread is the appropriate place for this question...)
#10
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I doubt that they would be adding new service to tertiary US destinations until they can handle their existing EWR flight load.
#11
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I do business (and look for new businesses) mostly in secondary and tertiary US cities -- can anyone with an insider's understanding of scheduling/route decisions explain to me why United hasn't brought back a number of regional routes from EWR that they previously ran, even during COVID?
I believe EWR direct service to/from XNA was stopped in April 2022 and was slated to come back in late September. But I haven't seen it added back yet in any future month.
PNS was cut as a direct route to/from EWR with COVID. UA also cut the ORD-PNS route in Jan 2021 but it has returned.
I'm using PNS and XNA as examples because both currently have direct service to/from DEN, ORD and IAH but not EWR (and selfishly because I need to travel to both, haha). Should we expect more direct regional routes from EWR if/when the labor shortage eases up? I'm sure profitability also plays a role, but it feels like between the beaches/military bases near PNS and Walmart/Ozarks in XNA, these are decent business-leisure combo destinations which helps demand, am I wrong? Does Terminal A's opening and available UA gates at EWR play a role in this, since so many regional routes used to use the old Terminal A?
Thank in advance for any insider views on whether/when I can expect to see these routes return to the EWR route map...
(Obligatory hopefully the schedule thread is the appropriate place for this question...)
I believe EWR direct service to/from XNA was stopped in April 2022 and was slated to come back in late September. But I haven't seen it added back yet in any future month.
PNS was cut as a direct route to/from EWR with COVID. UA also cut the ORD-PNS route in Jan 2021 but it has returned.
I'm using PNS and XNA as examples because both currently have direct service to/from DEN, ORD and IAH but not EWR (and selfishly because I need to travel to both, haha). Should we expect more direct regional routes from EWR if/when the labor shortage eases up? I'm sure profitability also plays a role, but it feels like between the beaches/military bases near PNS and Walmart/Ozarks in XNA, these are decent business-leisure combo destinations which helps demand, am I wrong? Does Terminal A's opening and available UA gates at EWR play a role in this, since so many regional routes used to use the old Terminal A?
Thank in advance for any insider views on whether/when I can expect to see these routes return to the EWR route map...
(Obligatory hopefully the schedule thread is the appropriate place for this question...)
#12
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: OMA
Programs: UA
Posts: 322
I had a change this weekend on an OMA-SFO flight in October, downgraded to an A319 to an E175, the latter making more sense on the route. Hopefully this flight resuming actually sticks this time. Looks like it is scheduled to resume on 9/7 now.
#13
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Chicago
Posts: 1,162
Yes. If HNL-IAD-YUL or HNL-ORD-YUL looks better in terms of timing, aircraft or seat availability, particularly if all on UA, you might be able to have UA switch you if you call in. The schedule change is a great impetus for this type of dialogue with UA.
#15
Join Date: Dec 2019
Location: EWR
Programs: UA 1K, DL DM
Posts: 255
I hear ya - I'm Diamond on DL because I do that. It takes me about 2.5x longer to get to LGA than EWR, so it's meaningful time advantage to go to EWR. And honestly I like UA a lot more than DL.